[multitaskmom]

Does anyone know the exact wording for this one by Benjamin Franklin? Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither freedom nor security. Or is it, Those who give up freedom for security will end up with no freedom and no security?

Your help is greatly appreciated.

[Mr. Silverback]

Please assume that the following is correct...

"Those who give up their freedom for security will have neither."

...but I'm not absolutely sure I have the wording right and am only about 90% sure it's Franklin.

There is also Niven's Fourth Law, put forth by science fiction grand master Larry Niven. Niven is a freedom-loving man (he put together an advisory group on SDI before they called it SDI or Star Wars) but his view is like "Franklin With A Twist"

"Niven's Fourth Law: F X S = k The Product of Freedom and Security is a constant. To gain more freedom of thought and/or action, you must give up some security, and vice versa."

Can you tell Larry's degree is in Math?

[Caesar Soze]

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

The "essential" and "little temporary" have almost been erased from the collective memory. I have theories as to why, but I'll save those for some other time.