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Disney Indoctrinatinting Kids-help!
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Posted on 09/24/2002 3:25:33 PM PDT by mgist

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1 posted on 09/24/2002 3:25:33 PM PDT by mgist
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To: mgist
Why would you continue to let your child be exposed to this? Buy her a buch of books and read to her instead.
2 posted on 09/24/2002 3:27:39 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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We've been without cable for 8 years now - our oldest kid is 9. Not only does it prevent most of the indoctrination problems you mentioned, but it keeps me from being hypnotized by sports programming and allows me to be a better dad.
3 posted on 09/24/2002 3:31:04 PM PDT by ghost of nixon
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To: mgist
I agree. Might I suggest you stick to pre-recorded programs or PAX TV.
4 posted on 09/24/2002 3:31:56 PM PDT by RAT Patrol
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The principal character was trying to remove ALL SCHOOL BOOKS?
5 posted on 09/24/2002 3:33:25 PM PDT by Timesink
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If there are parents out there who manage to constantly entertain the children and keep them away from television, I truly admire them and suggest they write a "How to" book. For me it is simply not realistic. I am a stay at home mom and keep them in all kinds of activities, a little TV is watched by all of us. What about all the other children out there being indoctrinated who are eventually going to become voters?
6 posted on 09/24/2002 3:37:14 PM PDT by mgist
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To: Timesink
The principal character was trying to remove ALL SCHOOL BOOKS?

Since the liberals would never allow it, it wanted students to share text books. Silly!

7 posted on 09/24/2002 3:40:13 PM PDT by mgist
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To: mgist
Disney is nothing but schlock. Although they have done some things that I don't agree with, the Hallmark Channel is pretty good. For instance, last night, and tonight, they have been broadcasting a miniseries biography of Hans Christian Andersen. Also, they have shows like My Three Sons, Bewitched, and I Dream of Jeannie in the afternoon.
8 posted on 09/24/2002 3:43:11 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: mgist
I locked Disney and Nickelodean out of my satellite receiver a long time ago. My home-schooled children are rarely exposed to them now (except sometimes at grandma's house - grrr).
9 posted on 09/24/2002 3:44:13 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: mgist
,,, turn your TV off. Sitting in front of one is the biggest admission of failure imaginable. There's limitless titles of books you can pick up at the library for your kid - and you decide what he gets, not some liberal TV scheduler.
10 posted on 09/24/2002 3:45:20 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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I thought you might want to see this.

http://www.erlc.com/Culture/Disney/1997/case.htm Disney hired Victor Salva, a convicted child molester, to direct its movie Powder. When Salva’s victim, Nathan Winters (now 20), publicized the hiring, some of the police officers who investigated the 1987 molestation were incredulous that Salva was working again as a movie director. "It just blows me away," said Officer Gary Primavera. "He has serious signs of being a pedophile." One Disney official, John Dreyer, refused to respond to Winter’s demand that Disney fire Salva, saying, "What’s the point other than you want to make headlines?" That’s compassion for you. Washington Times, 10/25/95 MOLEST VICTIM PROTESTS AT DISNEY FILM RELEASE; Director served prison term for sex crime 7 years ago

By Jim Herron Zamora
THE SAN FRANCISCO EXAMINER
October 25, 1995, Wednesday
News; Pg. A-1

(http://www.vachss.com/mission/disney.html)

The victim of a childhood sexual molestation is urging filmgoers to boycott the new Disney film "Powder," which was directed by the man who videotaped himself having oral sex with the then-12-year-old Concord boy.

The film, about a troubled teenager, is scheduled for release this Friday in 1,200 theaters nationwide. Its director, Victor Salva, confessed in 1988 to five felony counts related to having sex with a boy he directed in a low-budget film.

The molestation victim, Nathan Winters, now 20, has decided to go public with his ordeal to protest Salva's connection with the movie, which was made by a subsidiary of Walt Disney Studios.

Winters led a small band of protesters outside an entertainment industry screening of the movie in Los Angeles on Monday night.

"Please don't spend your money on this movie," urged leaflets handed out by the group "It would just go to line the pockets of this child molester." Friends toted signs: "Victor Salva: Writer, Director, Child Molester" and "Support the Victim, not the Victimizer."

Salva, 37, said in a statement Tuesday that he regretted his past actions.

"I paid for my mistakes dearly," he said. "Now, nearly 10 years later, I am excited about my work as a filmmaker and look forward to continuing to make a positive contribution to our industry."

Nathan's mother, Rebecca Winters of Concord, called Salva's return to filmmaking "absolutely outrageous."

"I can't believe it. It just makes me sick," she said. "I'm not going to stand by. He should not be allowed to live his life as if nothing happened."

She said the family learned that Salva was directing the movie when they saw his name on TV during an advertisement for "Powder."

"We were shocked to see his name in the credits," she said.

Salva confessed to having oral sex with Nathan Winters in 1987 while directing the then sixth-grader in "Clownhouse," a film about three boys terrorized by circus clowns.

"Clownhouse" won several awards and was the first horror movie released at the acclaimed Sundance Film Festival.

Salva was sentenced to three years in state prison, serving 15 months and completing parole in 1992, according to the state Corrections Department and court records in Contra Costa County. He is a registered sex offender in Los Angeles County, according to state records.

Laws in 46 states, including California, treat sex offenders differently than other convicted criminals in that sex offenders, once released from prison, are required to register with authorities in communities where they take up residence. This is because pedophiles are driven by a psychological compulsion that has typically not been cured by therapy, according to criminologists and prosecutors.

Although Salva's prison sentence was the shortest he was eligible for, it did not come as a result of a plea bargain, said Senior Deputy District Attorney Jack Waddell, who headed Contra Costa County's sexual assault prosecution unit at the time.

Winters, who also acted for Salva in the 1986 short film "Something in the Basement," told his mother during the making of "Clownhouse" that Salva had forced sex on him.

When police raided Salva's house, they found two homemade pornographic tapes, one showing Salva having oral sex with Winters.

In April 1988, Salva pleaded guilty to one count of lewd and lascivious conduct, one count of oral copulation with a person under 14 and three counts of procuring a child for pornography. At his sentencing hearing, a prosecutor said Salva appeared to seek jobs where he could work with children. Salva has written children's books and in 1985 worked at the Crawford Village Child Care Center in Concord.

Rated PG-13, the $ 10 million "Powder" is Salva's first mainstream Hollywood movie. The film was made for Caravan Pictures, a production company wholly owned by Disney.

Movie industry sources said that Salva was not under contract with Caravan or Disney for any movies beyond "Powder."

Salva's work with Caravan could prove embarrassing for Disney, whose theme parks, animated characters and popular cartoon videos have cemented its reputation for wholesome family fun for more than six decades.

Disney declined comment to The Examiner. Disney spokesman John Dreyer told the Associated Press, "What's the point, other than you want to make headlines?"

But Dreyer confirmed that Disney's corporate office was not aware of Salva's criminal record.

The producer of "Powder" defended his embattled director.

"He paid for his crime, he paid his debt to society," said Roger Birnbaum, head of Caravan Pictures who also recently produced "Dead Presidents" and "The Big Green." "What happened eight years ago has nothing to do with this movie."

Birnbaum said he was tipped about Salva's conviction halfway through filming "Powder" and confronted him. Told only the basics, Birnbaum elected to neither dismiss Salva nor inform the entire cast and crew. Instead, Birnbaum said, "Key production people were told to keep an eye out for anything, just in case." Nothing improper was observed, Birnbaum said.

"Powder" stars Mary Steenburgen and Jeff Goldblum as the teachers of a boy with telekinetic powers and pure white skin, which repels his peers.

The actor who plays the teenage Powder, Sean Patrick Flanery, is 29, and Birnbaum told the Los Angeles Times that no minors were on the set during filming of the movie.

Experts in child abuse fear that Salva's role as a director of a teen-oriented film could put him in a position where he could use his power as a lever to abuse other minors.

"The frustrating part for law enforcement is that you have a convicted molester who is able to be around children and to be in a position of authority," Officer Joe Kreins of the Concord Police Department said. "It would be very easy for him to abuse his power and authority in that position."

A 1988 state Justice Department study found that almost half of all sex offenders are re-arrested; nearly 20 percent of sex offenders commit another sex crime. Convicted sex offenders are more than nine times as likely to commit another sex offense than a person convicted for a non-sex offense, statistics show. "People do commit offenses and get out and get on with their lives," Waddell said. But "pedophiles and child molesters do have a tendency toward recidivism."

11 posted on 09/24/2002 3:48:52 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: shaggy eel
I was in my local Books-A-Million today, and they have young people's classics marked down to two bucks! And, by classics, I mean real classics. No politically correct crapola.
12 posted on 09/24/2002 3:49:18 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: mgist
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. My kids get a healthy dose of talk radio and can generally recognize crap when it comes their way, but it is good to sit down with them and watch what they watch.
13 posted on 09/24/2002 3:52:15 PM PDT by Slyfox
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Thanks, I realized I should probably watch with her after I walked away in disgust. If I simply told her it was a stupid show turned it off she would become secretive like she has with Nickolodean. Next time I'm going to calmly point out the flaws!
14 posted on 09/24/2002 3:57:51 PM PDT by mgist
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Try TV Land. They have some good shows such as Leave it to Beaver amongst others. We have a tendency to stay away from Disney, especially anything that has been recently released.
15 posted on 09/24/2002 3:58:30 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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,,, my kids live with their mother. I get them most Saturday afternoons and take them back before school on Monday mornings. I live 50km north of where they are, where there's a superb beach, mountains, a world class car museum and all sorts of activities for growing kids. Also, there's plenty of books whenever they want them. We have two TVs but they're never used and the kids know they'll be laughed at if they ask to watch them. Might have told you this before... I watched Tiger Woods on TV playing the NZ Open back in January and we had the TV on as well on Sept 11 - and few days following it. Otherwise, forget it.
16 posted on 09/24/2002 4:39:29 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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I don't pay much attention to children's programming. I really like all the construction shows, like on Discovery, TLC, and HGTV. If things were different, I always thought I would like to be a furniture maker.
17 posted on 09/24/2002 4:43:28 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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I always thought I would like to be a furniture maker.

,,, admirable. Couple it with French polishing and you're really talking.

18 posted on 09/24/2002 4:48:20 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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I've noticed similar crap from Disney. One common theme I've noticed is that adults are stupid and kids are genuises and are needed to straighten out the goofy parents. Many times the kids talk to the parents in a rude, impolite manner, and the so-called adults simply apologize to the kids for being wrong.

I've also noticed strong sexual innuendos, amid other distasteful antics.

As such, as another poster has mentioned he's also done, I've locked all Disney stations out of my satellite receiver....

19 posted on 09/24/2002 4:53:53 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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Ahhhh, I remember woodshop in high school. I can still smell the pine sawdust!
20 posted on 09/24/2002 4:55:07 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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