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To: L,TOWM
And both are equal in their reference to any reality, existing or potential...

Rand's characters are one-dimensional archetypes. Same goes for the plot.

Heinlein on the other hand knew how people, technology and history work. A great wordsmith as well:

"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."

There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him."

"No state has an inherent right to survive through conscript troops and, in the long run, no state ever has."

: "Any government will work if authority and responsibility are equal and coordinate. This does not insure 'good' government; it simply insures that it will work. But such governments are rare -- most people want to run things but want no part of the blame. This used to be called the 'backseat-driver syndrome.' "

: "Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can't help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death, there is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity."

"Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surely curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbours than the other sort."

-RAH

60 posted on 09/24/2002 5:56:23 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: AdamSelene235
When any government . . . undertakes to say to its subjects, 'This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know,' the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything--you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. --If This Goes On...

Heinlein Remembered

65 posted on 09/24/2002 6:18:42 PM PDT by Condorman
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