[dcwusmc]

Lyndon Johnson has been gone from the WH since '68. The peace protests ended in about '71 or '72, when the draft ended, IIRC...
I am also a Vietnam veteran and I have some SERIOUS questions about this whole thing. I would appreciate some serious discussion from the warmongers so that we can come to some reasonable conclusions. I am not dead against taking out Saddam IF there is more than hearsay linking him to 9-11. The fallout from Gulf I is not anywhere near sufficient, as far as I am concerned, because it does not link him to 9-11. If he MUST go for that reason, he can wait. Get the PERPS FIRST. Like the Saudis, perhaps... I know that 15 of 19 of the actuals on the planes were Saudis. Who were the Iraqis that flew the mission? Try discussion and let's see where we end up. Flamebait and this five bs don't count for much except to show off the set-in-stone ignorance of the ones using it.

[saradippity]

Thanks for the sane post.I was beginning to think I was lucky my husband died in Viet Nam given the attitudes many vets seem to have brought home with them.I have a perplexed expression on my face as I post this.Like what am I sayng,but its how this thread has affected me.

[FreeReign]

Get the PERPS FIRST. Like the Saudis, perhaps... I know that 15 of 19 of the actuals on the planes were Saudis. Who were the Iraqis that flew the mission?

Most Al-Quida are not Saudis yet OBL chose 15 out of 19 Saudis to be on the planes. Why do you think "PERP" OBL -- an exile and enemy of the Saudi royals -- chose 15 out of 19 Saudis to be on the planes?

[CIB-173RDABN]

I have some SERIOUS questions about this whole thing...

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Sorry Bro, but if you are not convinced by now, there is nothing I can say to convince you.

Oh, the peace movement has never gone away.

[ChadGore]

Re: "I am not dead against taking out Saddam IF there is more than hearsay linking him to 9-11"

While I would agree that linking the Iraq question to 9/11 is emotionally easy, it's intelectually dishonest, and I thank you for the courage to bring it up.

The only thing I can honestly say about saddom and 9/11 is he's not on our side in this battle. Literaly not on our side. He's made the decision on his own not to ally himself with the rest of the freedom loving world on the war against terrorism, and that's a sad decision that he'll have to bear the responsibility for.

It's yet another dumb decision by saddom, (not to be outshaddowed by saddoms decision to invade Iran leading to the 8 year Iran/Iraq war that cost the planet a million souls, gassing Iranian soldgers, gassing his own people, his decision to rape and pillage a small defenceless country to his south, or to roll his tanks into the Saudi Arabian Kingdom and occupy the city of Kafhji in 1991).

To me, it's simple.

In the late 60s the world had a dictator seeking to obtain weapons of mass destruction and the United States acted unillateraly to take preemptive military action to end the escalation. That was the cuban missle crisis, and it was the right thing to do.

Now I realise that some might say "But that was 90 miles off our shore and Saddom is 1/2 way around the world", and that would be an interesting point, but as technology marches forward over the last 30 years, delivery methods have changed, and his danger to this great nation and our allies in the region are very real.

The other differance between the cuban missle crisis: The dictator in question did not have a history of purging borders for humor and sport and using weapons of mass destruction, and saddom does.