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How about we just lay ONE on you? the middle one. You can do better than this and mostly you do. What's the deal here? Can't wait to see the body bags come home? We got totally rushed into Vietnam with no discussion and no thought as to what would constitute victory (of course there could have been NO victory, as Robert Strange McNamara knew at the time but declined to share... does THAT inspire trust and confidence in your gooberment?) or how we would exit the place or even how long we'd be there... so come on and debate the ISSUES... drop the 5 bs and be the man you used to be.