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Don't Start the Second Gulf War
National Review Online ^ | 8-12-02 | Doug Bandow

Posted on 09/24/2002 11:51:53 AM PDT by Protagoras

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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Thats real sweet, and real nice, but only appears to apply after the damage is done.

What about preventive war?

661 posted on 09/25/2002 6:29:19 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Who cares what those heathen, idol-worshippers think about "just war"... now, if the Pope had a bigger army, then maybe someone would give a crap...

662 posted on 09/25/2002 6:55:45 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Chad Fairbanks
I am not Roman Catholic, but I believe that several of their doctrines have much validity to it and possess values that other Protestant Christians should consider for themselves.

You might not care about "heathen idol worshippers", but believe it or not, Christ does and He still cares about their souls and salvation.

663 posted on 09/25/2002 7:06:28 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
What about Preventative War?

If the United States starts to walk down the path of "Preventative War", it will reap nothing but trouble for us and our allies.

People need to understand that war must be Just and invading and destroying a sitting government in a country just because they don't agree with us is not a justifiable principle for which to wage war.

While it is true that Sadaam possess biological and chemical weapons, he has not used these weapons against us. Invading and ousting a sitting government just because "we think" they might attack us is a shaky and ambigious doctrine for which to place the safety of our nation and way of life.

664 posted on 09/25/2002 7:09:38 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: FreedominJesusChrist

Well, since we want to make sure it is a "just war", we can just start calling it a "righteous ass-kicking" instead... how's that?
665 posted on 09/25/2002 7:11:02 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Peace in our time, eh, Mr. Chamberlain?
666 posted on 09/25/2002 7:12:09 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: ThomasJefferson
Hey Doug, Iraq has fired on our planes 2500 times in the last three years. If that isn't an act of war, I don't know what is. Its time to end the war, and bring peace and liberation to the Iraqi people. And send a loud and clear message to all the other devils and tyrants in the region, the phony new world order is over, and your next.
667 posted on 09/25/2002 7:17:11 PM PDT by Russell Scott
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To: Chad Fairbanks
The Bush Administration will ultimately get their way and wage their war.

Just remember that while all is said and done, there were a few people that remembered the principles of a Just War.

668 posted on 09/25/2002 7:17:21 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Chancellor Palpatine; CWOJackson
If the US were to invade Iraq, it would likely do so virtually alone without any coalition allies. Even America's closest ally, the UK has voiced opposition to the US plan to invade Iraq.

Funny, that's not what the Brit papers are saying.

So much for "analysts", huh?

669 posted on 09/25/2002 7:17:30 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Russell Scott
Were we in their air-space or international air-space?
670 posted on 09/25/2002 7:18:03 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Amelia
So brilliant and principled that one is.
671 posted on 09/25/2002 7:19:20 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
While it is true that Sadaam possess biological and chemical weapons, he has not used these weapons against us. Invading and ousting a sitting government just because "we think" they might attack us is a shaky and ambigious doctrine for which to place the safety of our nation and way of life.

I thought last week you were arguing that ousting Saddam was the right thing to do?

672 posted on 09/25/2002 7:19:21 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Amelia
I did.

To tell you the truth, I have done a lot of reading lately and I have changed my position.

I backslid. One thing that I learned from this is that I should always read up sufficiently on an important issue before I go off and spout an opinion.

673 posted on 09/25/2002 7:21:21 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
The Bush Administration will ultimately get their way and wage their war.

Not "their war"... OUR War - one that needs waging...

674 posted on 09/25/2002 7:22:01 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
One thing that I learned from this is that I should always read up sufficiently on an important issue before I go off and spout an opinion.

Well, please be sure to let us know when you have read up sufficiently...

675 posted on 09/25/2002 7:23:24 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
To tell you the truth, I have done a lot of reading lately and I have changed my position....One thing that I learned from this is that I should always read up sufficiently on an important issue before I go off and spout an opinion.

Funny, I thought that last week you said you'd studied it quite a bit, and while you usually disagreed with Bush, you thought he totally right about Iraq?

676 posted on 09/25/2002 7:25:23 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Amelia
She found her a new boyfriend - our analyst pal.
677 posted on 09/25/2002 7:32:56 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Who cares what those heathen, idol-worshippers think about "just war"... now, if the Pope had a bigger army, then maybe someone would give a crap...

Thanks....Saves time to know when I need not bother reading someone's posts.

678 posted on 09/25/2002 7:33:58 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: St.Chuck
I was just kidding about the 'heathen idol-worshipper' thing... get a grip.
679 posted on 09/25/2002 7:36:18 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
One thing that I learned from this is that I should always read up sufficiently on an important issue before I go off and spout an opinion.

I salute your open mindedness....but I just think you need to read more. Rice: Iraq providing shelter, chemical weapons help to al-Qaida

680 posted on 09/25/2002 7:36:38 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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