Don't Start the Second Gulf War

National Review Online ^ | 8-12-02 | Doug Bandow

[stuartcr]

OK

[RedBloodedAmerican]

The rest of us will continue to debate this important decision until we make up our minds on whether we support this particular course of action or not

Good for you. While the rest of America fights for your freedom and security, you go ahead and piss on the lives lost in the WTC and Pentagon. Nicely done.

[rintense]

- 20/20
- Dateline
- FOXNEWS- particularly from Steve Harrigan and Geraldo
- The former Prime Minister of Afghanistan. She has a good idea since she's a woman.

Let's see... the people celebrating in the streets when the Americans came...

The women dropping their burkas...

The men shaving their beards...

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Frankly, you have a better chance of flying to the moon than Saddam has of obtaining ICBM's

***Ritter's mother alert***

[stuartcr]

Why would any one persons opinion outweigh any others?

[VaBthang4]

"Please demonstrate that this is false or withdraw. Thank you."

(Again with the stuffy British Accent...)
YES! Kiss off Bugger!

[VRWC_minion]

Yet we are being asked to blindly trust our leaders who are career politicians. I try, yet cannot muster such blind faith

First, you have no faith in our representative form of government then. Unfortunately for you we have a republic and you have already given the president and congress the responsibility to wage war.

Second, any targeting in a war is done based on secret information. Using your criteria that we cannot trust government to choose its targets in secret that all future wars must be fought where we make each target public and vote on it in the public forum. Okie dokie.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Looks like you need to give more credit to the administration

I would have said "more attention", or in this case, any attention at all.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

If this debate is based on the article, the only "high level" is the result of cannabis. Got pipe?

[stuartcr]

You said that there was a big difference in your opinion. I stated a fact that everyone has an opinion. It meant that many opinions differ. I was not alive in 1938, I have no idea what I would have done, just as I have no idea what to do in todays messed up world. I just happen to be honest enough to admit it.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Exactly. These people want to believe lies as if it were truth. Sooo....how do you debate lies? The truth hurts their feelings. What are we to do?

[iranger]

"I would suggest that you ask those living under the Taliban if they would rather be dead."

Question for you, if alive in 1776, would you have supported the revolutionaries efforts?

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Far fewer than in NY or Washington DC. So, what do peaceniks eat? Are you guys veggetarians?

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Well, when we speak of you America haters of the far right, we're talking about numbers so small that they may as well be considered on an individual basis - and which are ulimately meaningless in establishing government policy. Thanks for allowing the opportunity to clarify the role of the policy opinions of tiny minorities.

[stuartcr]

Was I rich? Was I a farmer? Where did I live? I have no idea how or what I would have thought.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE MADE NO SUCH CLAIMS

Do you have Security Clearance, and work in the Pentagon? Unless you do, do you think you have a need to know? Or are you one of the Clintonites who tried people in the media, and jeopordize National Security for approval from citizens?

[VaBthang4]

"Sooo....how do you debate lies?"

I have resolved myself not to debate these morons. They have all the facts they need to make an informed decision...the pretense that they are somehow still pondering the comings and goings of the current threats we face is simply nonsense.

I will no longer debate them.....instead mockery is my tool of choice.

[stuartcr]

Why do you assume I am a peacenik, or a vegetarian? You know what they say about those that assume.

[AUgrad]

First, you have no faith in our representative form of government then. Unfortunately for you we have a republic and you have already given the president and congress the responsibility to wage war.

True, I have very little faith in our so called "Republic".We have a federal autocracy, not a republic.

Second, any targeting in a war is done based on secret information. Using your criteria that we cannot trust government to choose its targets in secret that all future wars must be fought where we make each target public and vote on it in the public forum. Okie dokie.

There's a huge difference between choosing an individual target and choosing to bomb an entire country.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

I posted the thread, I have every right to ask that the comments be thoughtful and constructive

That was a nanny reply.

You posted the thread with Jim Robinsons permission. He is the one who runs the site.

Rintense had it right:

You are anti-authority, and want to run things so you can be in control. From this forum, to what others say (funny, you state you can say whatever you want, though. Isn't that very Democratic of you) on down to what the Govt does.

Control freak? Or fearful freak? You decide.