"DEBATE-GATE" (MY TITLE) DEBATE WON'T BE ON TV FLA GOV. BUSH V. MCBRIDE

The St. Petersburg Times ^ | September 24, 2002 | Wes Allison, Times Staff Writer

[floriduh voter]

Where can I buy nerf darts? Never mind.

I'll be typing his freaking lies as fast as he spews them out. I hope I don't get ill. LOL

[Joe Brower]

Where can I buy nerf darts?

Wal-Mart! $5 for 10, (blaster is extra), but oh-so worth it!

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Thanks for the ping. Watching McBride without a live Freep thread? What if we limit comments to catty attacks on his personal appearance? Better yet, ignore McBride altogether and comment (positively of course) on Jeb throughout the thread since DU-DNC-McAuliffe-McBride will probably be checking us out? I bow to your political expertise. (^:

[JulieRNR21]

Thanks for the ping. Watching McBride without a live Freep thread? What if we limit comments to catty attacks on his personal appearance? Better yet, ignore McBride altogether and comment (positively of course) on Jeb throughout the thread since DU-DNC-McAuliffe-McBride will probably be checking us out? I bow to your political expertise. (^:

How about 2 threads.....If floriduh voter is willing to do a LIVE & windchime wants to host an 'apres debate' discussion.....I'll be interested in both myself and most appreciative!

[JulieRNR21]

OOOOPS...meant to post #64 to you also.....Julie

[windchime]

Live Thread on Debate Pros and Cons:
Cons:
I thought I detected a 'typing exhaustion' from you in a previous message and a desire to enjoy the 'show', so that's why I presented an alternative. Also, my competence at typing/transcription is non-existent, particularly when one word missed or misplaced could color the entire exchange.
Pros:
JulieRNR21 said she would be out of the area and not able to see the debate. 'Super Supporter', PhiKapMom, is out of state and can't watch live. There are many others that have joined us in our effort to re-elect Governor Bush that won't be able to watch, so a live thread might be beneficial in providing them with real time news of the debate.

But, if the posting isn't fast, accurate and coherent, they will be better off reading about it after the fact.What to do? What to do?! I will help anyway I can and will leave the decision to you since you have more experience with FreeRepublic and how it works.

[multitaskmom]

From the Jacksonville Business Journal

http://c.bizjournals.com/ct/c/149590

Sunshine Network to rebroadcast debates

The Sunshine Network said it will replay the Sept. 27 debate, scheduled to be held in Jacksonville, between gubernatorial candidates Jeb Bush and Bill McBride eight times in October.

The network said it will air the debate Oct. 8 at 4:30 p.m., Oct. 11 at 4:30 p.m., Oct. 16 at 10 a.m., Oct. 18 at 4:30 p.m., Oct. 21 at 10 a.m., Oct. 22 at 10 a.m., Oct. 25 at 4:30 p.m. and Oct. 29 at 10 a.m.

06:53 EDT Wednesday

Now, can anyone tell me what the Sunshine Network is and what channel is it on?

[floriduh voter]

Re: The Debate Debate... LOL Yes, if I tried to type Governor Bush Q & A, the moderator's questions and McLawyer's Q & A, I would definitely suffer from typing exhaustion and yes, I am going to be eating popcorn and having refreshments too.

Here is how I have whittled it down. Since I am not going to be fast enough to get the moderator's question and McLawyer's answer, I decided that every time the moderator asked McLawyer a question, I would only transcribe his answer, i.e. POST MCBRIDE ANSWER FIRST, THEN POST ANSWER NEXT, POST ANSWER NEXT, etc. That way, I would just be transcribing what McLawyer says and it would be easy to at least see the guy's mindset.

When he's not talking, I get to rest and have refreshments. And, I do not plan on any critique he can use to improve himself for debate 2. WE MUST ALL REMEMBER LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS.

Would you like to type Jeb Bush's words or the moderator's questions? I think if we had two people posting besides me, we've got the three people in the debate covered. Or if someone else wants to do this on the live debate thread, they can use the same format. Mod Question to Jeb first,mod to Jeb next, mod to Jeb next etc. Then JEB ANSWER FIRST, ETC. That would be a format that would be easy to follow and easy for three people to cover three people. Typing doesn't have to be P E R F E C T. This would be helpful for people who don't get to see the debate at all. It won't be chronological, but it will be better than nothing at all and we can re-arrange it later on. That would be kewl.

[floriduh voter]

See my last to windchime. I WANT to transcribe McLawyer's every word and not critique him. I mean, if he grunts or pauses, I type it. I simply can't transcribe McLawyer, my favorite Governor Bush and the moderator. I'm in for a live thread if someone will type the moderator's questions and someone else types Governor Bush's answers. That's three on three.

All other posters should make their comments but not inadvertently give DU lurkers constructive criticism for McLawyer.

If windchime wants to start the thread as the author, she should put an admonishment at the top of the thread about loose lips, etc.

[floriduh voter]

The Sunshine Network is a Florida sports channel and if you have cable, it's in the higher numbers on the remote. Maybe the Sunshine Network has a web site.

You could do a google search or check your local listings and see if you get the Sunshine Network. If you get it, it should be in your tv guide.

And, I don't see how c-span could skip this since they taped the dem debates here but it was a poor tape and they looked like they were in an earthquake imo.

[windchime]

I'll take the moderator since I'm not a fast typist and not used to transcription. If you can manage McBride/McAuliffe, eating popcorn and having refreshments, I consider you a professional!

WFLA-NBC Tampa just announced a poll (don't remember by whom) that has Bush-49% McBride/McAuliffe-43% Some unknown person-1% and Undecided 7%. Terrible picture of JEB again! They're using unflattering shots that make him look as old and out of shape as McBride/McAuliffe.

[windchime]

You scare me when you talk about ANYONE being able to do all three people in the debate!:)

Since I haven't done this before, would you please start the thread? I just want to make sure it's done correctly. One of my favorite accuracy statements is "If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you find time to do it again?" In this case we've got one shot at getting it right.

[floriduh voter]

Okay, I'll start the thread but it's not hard to start one. You just hit "post" and fill in the blanks, preview, edit and hit post. Then, you're on. But, I'll do it about 7:40 pm in case they have a pre-show like the Oscars. LOL

I am covering McLawyer. Do you want to cover the moderator or Governor Bush? Then we just need an additional person to cover the one you don't select.

We can do this and I will set out our format in the body of the thread at the top. Since we don't know who is going to speak first, if you are near your tv, just start typing every time the person you selected: Jeb or the mod opens their mouth. (let others make commentary - we should just type verbatim as best as possible). I used to type 100 wpm but I'm a lot slower now. But, connecting words can be tossed out for ... if they talk fast. The idea is to give thread watchers the gist of the debates. Key words, key sentences, annoying or good sound bites.

I'm not going to look at body language until I watch my tape later. Someone else can eyeball the candidates and post that. SO, WE NEED ONE VOLUNTEER TO TYPE FOR THE DEBATE FRIDAY NIGHT either the mod or Jeb's remarks. FV

[floriduh voter]

Okay, you are typing the questions by the moderator for Jeb and McLawyer. That means, that while they are answering, you are not typing and can eat popcorn and wait for the next question.

WE NEED A VOLUNTEER TO type Governor Bush's answers for the debate. The division of labor is a good thing and we don't even need a union.

[floriduh voter]

WFLA is for McBride big time. I wouldn't fret too much over anything on their station. Although they mentioned that Reno and McBride and JONES had tailgate parties at the Canes-Gator football game, they failed to mention that Governor Bush and AG Candidate Charlie Crist were both there. Crist told me that himself.

You might notice that Jack Harris of WFLA radio used to be on Channel 8, NBC. He's now a political commentatory on Bay News 9. He's a Republican (verified by personal email in 2000). Unfortunately, WFLA tv is biased these days - every anchor -every story.

Bay News 9 also floated the PHONY AP POLL. They bent over backwards later that day to say that JEB BUSH HAS EXCELLENT POLL RATINGS.

We are going to see a lot of scary polls before November.

PEOPLE NEED TO visit www.jeb.org and get their bumper stickers, download buttons or make their own AND GET YARD SIGNS AND HAND-HELD SIGNS. The hand-held signs are important on election day. Pick a safe corner, take a friend and WAVE YOUR JEB SIGN. You don't have to ask anyone's permission to wave at cars and "get out the vote". Lots of Floridians are LOYAL JEB SUPPORTERS. We all have to prove it and get the vote out for Jeb.

By the way, Channel 10, WTSP took a lot of heat for refusing to carry the First Debate. THAT WAS A LOCAL DECISION. CBS is polluted from top to bottom it appears or maybe they are covering for the national DNC. (op-ed piece today's St. Pete Times at www.sptimes.com

[NautiNurse]

I took advanced chemistry instead of typing. Can't type worth a darn.

Personally, I like the free flowing comments in a live thread. I plan to record the debate on the 'puter, will have still screen shots posted during the debate.

so, will there be two threads going?

[floriduh voter]

As of right now, Thursday, we have someone transcribing the moderator's Questions, I am transcribing McLawyers and we need someone to transcribe Governor Bush's. I know of no second thread. The point is that each time I do a post, I am going to type in CAPS that it is MCBRIDE FIRST ANSWER, then post it. The next time he talks, I type MCBRIDE NEXT ANSWER, etc. The moderator is handled the same way. MODERATOR FIRST Q TO MCLAWYER - one post, MODERATOR NEXT TO GOV. BUSH - another post, etc. That way, people can still do their free flowing commentary interspersed with our transcription.

As long as transcription by 3 posters is clearly marked each time before we post, the free flowing stuff can be there too. I don't think we need two threads if the transcript portions are clearly marked.

One stop shopping works better IMO. It will be a smorgasbord of text and commentary with no rules except that WE SHOULD NOT INADVERTENTLY HELP MCLAYWER BY CRITIQUING him for dem lurkers. Then later on, someone can get pictures for us.

Now I have to get ready for my handyman to show up. New garbage disposal and bathroom light - my other life calls.

[windchime]

"I used to type 100 wpm but I'm a lot slower now."

One comment.....Good Grief! I'm lucky to do 25wpm!

I have started threads, but they've all been based upon a source like a news article. I'm much more comfortable with you initiating it.

Luckily, I do have a TV near my computer. It would be next to impossible to run from room to room to do this. Thanks for the transcribing tips.

[windchime]

"The division of labor is a good thing and we don't even need a union."

Although.......I'll need to bring in someone from the restaurant workers union to make and deliver my popcorn!
Yes, while they are answering, I will eat popcorn with no beer.....might impair my typing. I hope the moderator enunciates well!

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

YEA! Live thread! FV, from previous live threads I think we can safely say that the DU-Dems. (McBride) will simply get really angry at our comments, considering us too stupid to get it. He can't change his positions...he's a solid, far left Dem. He can lie about his positions, get a haircut and a new suit, get the press to lie for him...but nothing he does will change his spots.

What about this for a slogan: IF YOU LIKE DASCHLE, VOTE MCBRIDE! (^: