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Qaida tested chemical weapons in Iraq
Ha'aretz ^
| 9/23/02
| Ze'ev Schiff
Posted on 09/23/2002 8:56:24 AM PDT by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife
I see an Taliban link with Saddam here.
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posted on
09/23/2002 9:02:30 AM PDT
by
vannrox
To: truthandlife
It is doubtful that Saddam Hussein knew in advance about the experiments Doubtful??
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posted on
09/23/2002 9:03:49 AM PDT
by
Mo1
To: vannrox
I see an Taliban link with Saddam here. FWIW, I agree w/ the article that the Iraqis probably didn't know about this beforehand. From what little I know, the Kurdish areas of Iraq are pretty much lawless, which is the sort of place for which Al Qaeda looks for real estate.
I'm also guessing that Saddam views an Al Qaeda presence as a security threat to him.
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posted on
09/23/2002 9:09:42 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: r9etb
Oh, I am not quite sure about that. Saddam is not a man who should be trifled with. There are certainly areas of lawlessness in Iraq, but I believe, they exist with his tact approval. For one reason or another. Why would he attack Kwait when he had a much larger area in Iraq that was not under his control? It doesn't make much sense to me. I propose that he has better C-cubed OPS than we give him credit for.
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posted on
09/23/2002 9:16:12 AM PDT
by
vannrox
To: r9etb
Are you serious? You think that it was coincidental that the tests took place in the same region? Where do you think that the chemical weapons came from? Do you think that the Qaeda developed them all by themselves? Do you think that the fact that they were used against Saddam's potential enemies was just a matter of convenience?
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posted on
09/23/2002 9:20:00 AM PDT
by
Eva
To: vannrox
, but I believe, they exist with his tact approval. For one reason or another. Why would he attack Kwait when he had a much larger area in Iraq that was not under his control? It doesn't make much sense to me. I don't think he can control it. The place sounds like Chechnya, or certain areas of Afghanistan.
The Kurds in Northern Iraq are the same group that Turkey frequently invades Iraq to fight. Turkey has actually established a base in Northern Iraq -- to Saddam's advantage, I'm sure, but it's difficult to see why Saddam would allow such an infringement of sovereignty.
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posted on
09/23/2002 9:21:26 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: Mo1
Doubtful?? I think its called: Plausable Deniability
Although in Sodom's case: plausable is a bit of a stretch.
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posted on
09/23/2002 9:26:59 AM PDT
by
AFreeBird
To: AFreeBird
That was my thinking
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posted on
09/23/2002 9:30:42 AM PDT
by
Mo1
To: truthandlife
Hmmmmmm... This seems so Clintonesque to me. Perhaps I am just jaded. The bad news can be confirmed and is about to break, therefore the news is leaked/reported ahead of time in such a manner that the initial report distances the principals from the bad news. Note that the blame for the tests conducted in Iraq is placed with Kurdish rebels and Iranians - known enemies of the Iraqi regime. So even though it happened in Iraq, it's not their fault so they can't be blamed or held accountable. I guess I'm just a skeptic, but I think reading between the lines holds more truth than the face of this story.
To: truthandlife
To: r9etb
I don't think he can control it. The place sounds like Chechnya, or certain areas of Afghanistan. You're RIGHT ON the money here. Saddam gassed the Kurds before 1991 to quell their uprisings. The Norhtern no-fly zone keeps the kurds from being attacked by the Iraqi air force, and the southern no-fly protects the SHiites. On the ground, these rebels are able to hold their own, but if we give back air superiority, Saddam's remaining meager Air Force could pummel them daily.
Saddam /HAD/ control over vast majority of Iraq before he invaded Kuwait. Now he's temporarily in a "lock box" as Algore would say.
To: Eva
Where do you think that the chemical weapons came from? Do you think that the Qaeda developed them all by themselves?We know Saddam has plenty of people under his direct control for development and deployment of chem weapons. So giving powerful weapons to renegade groups that could be used against him doesn't make much sense, even for a psychopath like Saddam!
More likely, they either developed them themselves in a lawless uncontrolled area of Iraq, or they begged borrow or stole them from the Iraqis and Saddam is trying to figure out how they got them, too.
Like someone stole part of Dr. Evil's Laaazer Beam!
You know, we can't account for all of our "research" strains of Anthrax here in this country, but that doesn't mean the US government was complicit in its dispersal.
By your own reasoning, do you think that the Anthrax Mailer developed the powder all by himself? Either he made it himself, or he got it from the government.... So either terror groups can develop WMD like Anthrax on their own, or they can be "gotten" from government stockpiles, even though that may not implicate said government in being complicit in the scheme.
To: truthandlife
Ansar al Islam's close ties to conservative elements in Iran They mean the mad mullahs, not Rushdi al-Limbaugh.
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posted on
09/23/2002 10:52:27 AM PDT
by
Argus
To: Argus
LOL - good one!
To: truthandlife
Al Qaeda ACTIVISTS??
To: Argus
"They mean the mad mullahs, not Rushdi al-Limbaugh."LOL...BUMP!
To: Mo1; truthandlife
It is doubtful that Saddam Hussein knew in advance about the experimentsYeah right, like anything that big could take place in Iraq without Saddam knowing. The only question is was he there when they performed the tests and was he pleased.
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posted on
09/23/2002 12:15:28 PM PDT
by
Mixer
To: truthandlife
This is VERY interesting. About the only thing that I can believe is true is that chemical weapons were tested in that area recently.
Who helped al-Qaida test isn't all that important, as all sides involved have active chemical weapons programs. In any case, BOTH Iraq and Iran need to go.
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posted on
09/23/2002 12:35:54 PM PDT
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steveegg
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