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To: Frapster
We have embraced homosexuality so openly and so thoroughly in our culture that I see child sex as inevitable in some form or fashion our in future.

While I understand what your saying most people in general don't want to get into the business of how two consenting adults live their lives, sexually or otherwise. That is one reason homosexuality was able to win acceptance. It is also, to some extent, why (as I mentioned above) people aren't as mad as they should be about abortion. They don't see it and they don't rationalize an unseen&unborn as a child (just like people don't care about children starving in Africa until they see their photos).

Pedophilia is in danger of having this happen as well - out of site, out of mind, the only difference is people tend to have a soft spot when it comes to children: especially those who have kids (read - heterosexuals, creating your child in your likeness).

With the divorce rate high and people spending more and more time around young kids who are not their own they will try to rationalize sex with those kids because they desire them - rationality such as, it is not incest really and we both enjoyed it.

The breakdown of the family and rampant sexuality in our culture, homosexual or otherwise, has led us down this path of rationalizing our desires above those whom we have power and control over (children). Kids are different, and attempts to make them adults for our sexual use is both selfish and evil (IMHO). I would not blame so much the homosexual movement (alone) it is the lack of parents staying parents of their own children.

Had more to say but have to run and fix a server (and it did come up short btw as you stated)! Thanks for your comments! Sorry I got long winded but this is a touchy subject for me, for this obvious reason:


29 posted on 09/23/2002 7:30:43 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
I would not blame so much the homosexual movement (alone) it is the lack of parents staying parents of their own children.

I agree - homosexuality is a symptom of the problem and pedophilia is a more alarming indication that they 'problem' has spread - significantly.

32 posted on 09/23/2002 8:04:48 AM PDT by Frapster
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To: chance33_98
With the divorce rate high and people spending more and more time around young kids who are not their own they will try to rationalize sex with those kids because they desire them - rationality such as, it is not incest really and we both enjoyed it.

I strenuously disagree with this.

Homosexuality is an "issue" conservatives like to harp on because its public face runs so counter to the public face of conservatism (i.e., Provincetown vs. Main Street America). And for many traditional conservatives, especially on Free Republic, the mere fact that such a place like Provincetown or Key West exists is a definitive sign of the coming Armageddon.

The plain fact of the matter is homosexuality is not normal, heterosexuality is. This article is all about semantics, isn't it? How could homosexuality ever be normal? It may be tolerable, but unless we wish to commit suicide as a species, it will never be normal. The vast majority of adult men want to have sex with women---and lots of sex at that. The vast majority of adult women want to have sex with men.

We're being reactionaries here. We see something so whacked out and so against what we consider the right way to live that we figure the whole world is going to hell in a hand basket merely because we can't fathom it and we can't control it. So we manufacture these "slippery slopes" (an expression I hope you'll pardon giving the topic at hand) that are specious at best in order to augment our opposition to it. Just because we, as a society, tolerate adult homosexuals doesn't mean we will inevitably tolerate "intergenerational" homosexual or heterosexual sex. Some of you may squeal at the libertarian definition of it, but think about it rationally: adult homosexuality involves two consenting adults. Pedophilia and ephebophilia, by definition, do not. If anything, Americans of all political persuasions---even evil liberals---put the safety and best interest of their children above even the safety and best interests of themselves. One of the foundations of society---any society---is that it’s formed to protect the interests of and help foster healthy children.

Also, it seems to me that others are merely defining in secular terms why some of us have instinctive moral and religious aversions to behaviors we find repulsive---behaviors like homosexuality and pedophilia. I don't think it matters why we're repulsed by them as long as we are.


43 posted on 09/24/2002 6:24:18 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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