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To: clamper1797
Not true, an american engineer can still get a great job, but only if he has an IVY league or elite engineering school's diploma.
67 posted on 09/22/2002 3:23:06 PM PDT by ComputationalComplexity
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To: ComputationalComplexity
In Matloff's research he cites some individual cases. He has one fellow who graduated from Yale in electrical engineering with 4.0 GPA. Then the fellow went and got a master's degree at a second ivy league school. The fellow was american born, but of asian descent. He spent 2 years looking for a job and found zero offers. This was during 1990's during the desperate shortage of people in that field. He never even got a chance to work after all those years of preparation and at the very best schools wtih straight A's.

Just 10 years ago the large majority of people doing software didn't even have a degree for it in that their degrees were non-software degrees and they migrated into it later in life. Like me, I studied non-computer related engineering and then I migrated into software and am self-taught. This is how most software people were just 10-15 years ago. Now, all of those people with that profile are not even given a chance.

And then, after those people work in the industry for some time it seems they will be thrown away in the overwhelming majority of cases.

Americans who have held these jobs successfully and then find their skills are not current are finding that if they do go to a technical institute which costs money and time to re-vamp their skills that their chances of making it again in the job market are small.

In India the government has built an excellent system of technical institutes partly to send people to america thus receiving the money from the US government that would otherwise go to social security and to receive the income stream that an immigrant to the US sends home for many years after arriving. In our own country we have not I believe at least built a system of technical institutes to develop our own talent that is as good as their's.

In India talented people are pushed into the technical institutes and developed. You test high on aptitude tests they funnel you into it. In america they don't push you into the technical institutes if you test out on aptitude tests as being talented. I've known guys who were not much better than street thugs being guided into technical institutes in america. Then we wonder why they fail.

As a country we don't even respect our own people. We build failure for them and then we blame them.
92 posted on 09/22/2002 4:58:31 PM PDT by Red Jones
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To: ComputationalComplexity
As of December 2001 the reported unemployment rate for EE's was 2%. Think it has soared since then?
171 posted on 09/22/2002 9:11:00 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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