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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"THIS POST MAKES ME SICK. I HAVE POSTED AND POSTED HERE ABOUT THE LACK OF DESIRE OF OUR YOUNG TO LEARN. AS A TEACHER, I HAVE ENDURED UNIMAGINEABLE ABUSE WHEN TRYING TO PUSH STUDENTS TO HIGH LEVELS. I HAVE NO SYMPATHY LEFT. SOMETIMES, PEOPLE GET WHAT THEY DESERVE."

Now it seems you took this personal. I was not attacking teachers or any other segment of the education system. It is evident from your post that you are not satisfied with the education situation either. I am sorry if you did take it personally. I consider teachers only a part of the education system.

Now, it is evident that you never taught my children. I spent 23 years trying to push teachers to push my children and got no where. I was told more times than you can imagine that the education of my children was in the hands of the state of TExas. That they could educate my children without my input. My children were told not to 'go home and tell yo' momma and daddy everything that goes on in this school. That I could not start a volunteer program because they didn't want parents int he school nosing around. And on and on.

I am sorry these posts make you sick - but the fact is our children are not being educated for the task at hand. I can't change those facts and no one can argue with them. We might all have different opinions to changing that, but we have to begin by facing the facts and not be defensive or offensive about it.

But, no we are not getting what we deserve nor are we getting the education for which we are paying dearly.

173 posted on 09/22/2002 9:17:19 PM PDT by nanny
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To: nanny
And shrieking at me will not change the situation either - or the facts.
176 posted on 09/22/2002 9:23:53 PM PDT by nanny
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To: nanny
I am sorry these posts make you sick - but the fact is our children are not being educated for the task at hand.

Tell me do American Doctors attend the same schools as American Engineers? Do American Lawyers and Scientist at NASA attend the same schools as American engineers? Why is it that our schools are good enough to produce the finest Doctors, Lawyers and Scientist this world has known yet every one is saying that these very same schools can not produce a decent Engineer? I am just not buying it.

181 posted on 09/22/2002 9:47:48 PM PDT by blueriver
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To: nanny
Yes, you are not getting what YOU deserve. However, those who are deliberately dragging their feet in the system will cause you to get what THEY deserve. If people think that no consequence will result from laziness and a lack of desire to work and produce, they seek to make God a liar. Let's see who wins.

I could write a complete essay on this subject. However, the people who do not want the standards lifted are cold-blooded. You have not idea to what degree they are cold-blooded. If someone determines that I've given detailed information as to what is going on...I'll never teach again. I've even posted here on Free Republic asking for help to find a job outside of the teaching profession and got very little help.

Approaching despair.

201 posted on 09/23/2002 4:49:15 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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