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To: LibWhacker
I read you comment with some fun,but in the end i found it only boring. It proves only ignorance about how the world works and is:

One consequence is that it will cause people to become more serious about control The only serious control is to return the looney islamic world to the Dark Ages: No modern convieniences, no electricity, no industry, no roads, no cars, no trucks, no planes, no guns, no modern tools, no running water, no schools, no books, except the Quran. Return them to their nomadic roots: Camels, frankinsense, and the oasis. Same with the Chinese if they decide to get froggy with us. And with Europe. And anyone else who wants to challenge American supremacy. We WILL get to the stars and realize mankind's destiny, whether the rest of the world wants to do it or not.

I could write hundred of pages to show that if the US disappeared tomorrow, the world would not finish for that reason,but it's Sunday morning and nonetheless I have to study,later (guess, "thermodynamics of reactors" is a matter of study even outside the US!) It's sad to see how a great society like the America's one is rotten by people that believe in their "supremacy" because they like to invest in the militar industry (while infrastructures are a mess, but you can't realize it since probably you haven't ever put the nose outside your country village). Poor people that are simply unaware of the rest of the world.

54 posted on 09/22/2002 2:34:34 AM PDT by Jordi
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To: Jordi
It's sad to see how a great society like the America's one is rotten by people that believe in their "supremacy" because they like to invest in the militar industry (while infrastructures are a mess, but you can't realize it since probably you haven't ever put the nose outside your country village).

Well, Jordi, I don't know where you are from (I'll assume somewhere in Europe), but I was speaking of our military supremacy and nothing else.

What, you thought I was talking about racial supremacy? Sorry, pal, Germans and Frenchmen and Arabs seem to have the market nearly cornered in that kind of thinking.

As far as us liking "to invest in militar [sic] industry," it is true that we rather uniquely took our NATO and SEATO commitments seriously and spent heavily on defense so that we could meet those obligations, while many (not all, mind you) of our so-called allies stood back and let us carry the heavy load both economically and militarily. Meanwhile, these putative friends spent lavishly on their cherished welfare states, and yes, on some flashy infrastructure here and there as well (but the lion's share of it was and is crap . . . Yes, I've been to Europe and I have NO idea why we bothered rebuilding it after WWII).

I wonder how the vaunted infrastructure (a bullet train? . . . Gimme a break) of Europe and Japan would look if either had 4,000 miles of it from coast-to-coast to keep up, whilst defending nearly single-handedly a bunch of cowardly freeloaders from the menace of Sino-Soviet totalitarianism for 50 years? Not to mention the cost to us of regularly kicking some of those "friends'" butts each time they decided to deliriously goose-step off toward the nearest border to a symphony of martial music played by the latest insane, mustached lunatic they'd fallen in love with, and who's barking something in their ear about their racial superiority and purity?

Go*****ed gutless cowards, in Europe at least (I'm not counting Britain among them), NEVER appreciated democracy, or liberty, and certainly wouldn't fight -- much less die -- defending it. Our Cold War alliance with them was a big farce. Thank God we never had to rely on them to come to our defense. They stabbed us in the back at every opportunity for, as far as one can tell, being fool enough to save their bacon repeatedly in the last century. They appeased every tyrant, every communist regime, every murdering arab barbarian who raised his head, and shrieked like frightened little schoolgirls each time we proposed to stand up to the thugs.

Yeah, sure, you'll get to the stars, Jordi -- in about a million years. A thousand steps forward, 999 back. So go off and study the thermodynamics of reactors, a subject we gave to you, while enjoying your freedoms, which America secured for you at great expense to her in blood and money (but nonetheless which you do not appreciate, and would NEVER defend), and your prosperity, which we handed you on a silver platter, while amusing yourself on the internet (another gift from us).

I think we won't spend another dime on your defense. So go ahead, do your thing. Knock yourself out. Just don't do anything stupid . . . Like join with the Arabs. We do have military supremacy. We are going to keep it. And we will defend ourselves. Unlike you, I think.

55 posted on 09/22/2002 4:55:17 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Jordi
I could write hundred of pages to show [that if the US disappeared tomorrow, the world would not finish for that reason.] This was a provacative statement. I'm not sure if it is clear enough for me to understand.
62 posted on 09/26/2002 1:07:45 PM PDT by ramdalesh
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