[jwfiv]

I've been watching you do a Mexican hat-dance on this thread, circling the issue, stating what you don't like, saying you see no evidence certain of Iraqi intention to do mischief, wondering why Iraq and not Saudi Arabia, and somehow making the right of Americans to bear arms equivalent with Saddam's 'right' to build WMD.

It's time for you to stop circling and step on the hat, let us know what you think is the proper course of action in response to the storms on the horizon.

Others have pointed out Iraqi complicity in WTC '93, etc. They connect the dots they see to another point in the future which then reveals a picture of a mushroom cloud over an American city.

What picture do you see? Show me evidence that Saddam is recidivist and repentent and will not use his arsenal for mass murder...currenty, I see none.

May G-d bless you, Ri Shi. Pull up a bit, see the forest, enlarge your vision...the endless permutation of detail, and the natual inclination to avoid aggression, will get us dead.

[MHGinTN]

... then reveals a picture of a mushroom cloud over an American city. The handler of the weapon and the one who gave the weapon to the handler for detonation are the responsible parties for the death cause by the weapon.

It will not take a detonation inside an American city to devastate our economy and hundreds of thousands of American lives to be lost; if Saddam is allowed to acquire nukes, a 1 meg detonated say twelve miles off shore of Los Angeles, New York, and or Miami will destroy the city and right up any rivers/inland waterways that lead to the sea through those cities.

Ignoring the 'head in the sand' folks like RiShi is better than giving them credibility by debating their lame-brained opinions. [HINT: a concealed carry permit isn't issued after being attacked, since CCP is to deter personal harm by being able to take action; how mistaken would this RiShi want to allow if a nuke or two from Saddam to terrorist shills were to be detonated off the coast of New York or Washington? Now the RiShi arguer will try to make the point that the CCP comes into use WHEN attacked, thus not an excuse to start shooting anyone the CCP person 'thinks' is a threat; but the reality is far more subtle when considering a megalomaniac and his proven minions. In essence, the notion of deterrence is all that I wish to pose with the CCP, and stomping the Bathists and Saddam NOW is the deterrence we ought opt for, to prevent the nuke-off-the-coast scenario ... waiting for a smoking gun (the tidal wave roaring toward New York) is not an option, unless one is willing to sacrifice a few million Americans and a city or three to get international sypathy on our side. Oh, and we don't really have the option to use nukes on Saddam unless WMD have been used on U.S., because the regional effects are catastrophic. We must strike 'pre-emptively'.]