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To: rb22982
One example is guns. It is 'associated with crime and violence' so the soccer moms try to ban them, regardless of the fact that guns are rarely used to commit crimes. Another is marijuana, which is comparitively harmful, impossible to OD on, yet want to keep it illegal because it is 'associated with other drugs'. Hey, so is alcohol but I guess that matters not

When in trouble in a debate agout drugs bring up guns. Time for the question the pro-drug crowd hates.

Firearms help protect innocent life and property, how many live have the recreational use of a joint, crack pipe, or heroin needle saved.

You can rant and rave and hold your breath until you turn blue, but you still haven't denied that marijuana is an integral part of the drug culture.

And to me the drug culture and many other people is something that is dangerous to the well being of this country.

Maybe someday you will look at the big picture and not get bogged down in mintuae.

173 posted on 09/20/2002 11:49:00 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
You still didn't debate the point. You are using a FEELING arguement (association), not a LOGICAL arguement based on the merits itself. But since we are going to bring up lives. How many lives have guns over the years killed. How many lives over the years has illicit drugs killed.

And your characterization of marijuana today is completely off base. You really, really don't have a clue even what today's drug culture is. When was the last time you actually hung out with people who used illicit drugs.

174 posted on 09/20/2002 11:51:41 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: Dane
And to me the drug culture and many other people is something that is dangerous to the well being of this country

Let's list the dangers of the drugs anyway while we are at it.

1) Lacing. Caused by the drug war.
2) Drug pushers of harder drugs. Caused by the drug war.
3) 50 billion bucks--tax dollars-spent on the drug war each year
4) Gangs. Caused by the drug war.
5) Deaths. Not prevented by the drug war. The drug war does not stop drugs from entering this country nor does it deter use. 6) 4th, 5th and 10th amendment trampled on. Caused by the drug war.

You fail to realize a host of problems are created by the drug war.

176 posted on 09/20/2002 11:55:08 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: Dane
Marijuana is an integral part of many cultures. I'm not sure what you mean by "the drug culture". I'm not so sure that "the drug culture" is the bogeyman you seem to think it is. I'm not sure what the point of your argument is. By the way, I'm almost positive that milk is an integral part of the "drug culture";-).
254 posted on 09/22/2002 9:34:40 AM PDT by jayef
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