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A ‘Scarlet Letter’ Law
Fla. Adoption Statute Pits Fathers’ Rights Against Women’s Privacy
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| 9/20/2002
| John Stossel
Posted on 09/20/2002 12:53:11 PM PDT by ZGuy
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To: montag813
The problems with America are mainly caused by JEWS. Clinton would never have been president and the Senate would be 55-45 GOP if JEWS could not vote. Conservative JEWS need to fix the problems with their JEWISH peers. They are destroying the moral fabric of this country.
The problems with America are mainly caused by BLACKS. Clinton would never have been president and the Senate would be 55-45 GOP if BLACKS could not vote. Conservative BLACKS need to fix the problems with their BLACK peers. They are destroying the moral fabric of this country.
Go on, fill in your own minority! It's fun and easy! Of course, it marginalizes your entire political outlook into the sort of kookdom that everyone will leap at the chance to disavow.
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posted on
09/21/2002 5:19:30 PM PDT
by
Heyworth
To: Chancellor Palpatine
This is beyond the Yates. This is Twlight Zone stuff.
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posted on
09/21/2002 8:12:49 PM PDT
by
rintense
To: rintense
I'm not sure that Serling could have come up with anything weird like this. Doing dishes after feeding my family tonight, I thought about the number of posters who would force all women to homemaking, whether they wanted it or not.
To: Chancellor Palpatine
I thank God everyday he gave me a brain and a mouth- and the intelligence to use them both.
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posted on
09/21/2002 8:20:07 PM PDT
by
rintense
To: rintense
You go, sister of mine.
To: ZGuy
I fully agree men should be informed they are going to be fathers. However, the way Florida is going about notifying fathers is wrong.
First, any woman putting a child up for adoption (outside of cases of rape) should be forced, under penalty of law for perjury, to name whom she believes the father and then contact this person/people.
In cases where the woman does not know who the father is (yes, this is a slut, outside of rape, regardless of how anyone tries to justify it) an ad should be run in the paper BUT without names. An ad such as "At such and such date, at so and so bar, one night stand with a man wearing these clothes etc, resulted in a pregnancy" then give the "father" a certain amount of time to come forward. No reason to name names to do this.
In cases where the woman does know whom the father is, it should be her responsibility to inform him or the pregnancy and then the state should have him either petition for full parental rights or to sign off acknowledgment of the adoption.
That is fair to all, protect the identity of the people involved and allow children to be adopted.
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posted on
09/21/2002 8:53:53 PM PDT
by
Brytani
To: Tired of Taxes
I've seen the article lots of times, and several others on the same topic. I'm not sure that everyone who is interested in this sort of things goes to www.mensnewsdaily.com .... if they did, they'd be up on the latest news.
We live in a strange era when people are not concerned when women act as independent breeders and sometimes want to dump children out the window. Sorry, this isn't what I want right now. Please don't bother me about the details, like the father or anything. Women are going to be complaining that somebody's trying to make giving up someone else's child (the father is a parent too), more complicated and personal than selling your own used car.
To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Precisely. "Conservatives" have a lot of baggage to unload if they every hope to reach the millions of women who are moderate-conservative, particularly on social issues such as abortion. If some of them alienate and frighten blacks and women who are fence sitters (the gigantic middlel spectram of voters), guess where they'll go?
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posted on
09/22/2002 1:50:02 PM PDT
by
Lorianne
To: montag813
How I wish that I could be humble again! If I could,
I SURE WOULD.
To: RogerFGay
We live in a strange era when people are not concerned when women act as independent breeders... Women are never independent breeders. Parthenogenesis is not biologically possible in humans. The real concern I have is with people delude themselves and try to delude others that it is.
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posted on
09/22/2002 1:57:40 PM PDT
by
Lorianne
To: grlfrnd; Tired of Taxes
I'm with grlfrnd. We keep talking about all of these rights. The right to an abortion, the right to privacy, the right to banish the father from the child yet still collect child support.
IMO she has the right to keep her legs closed. If not she has the right to have the foggiest idea of who the hell she was mating (like a stray dog) with.
If she's shamed, tough shit.
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posted on
09/22/2002 2:21:57 PM PDT
by
AAABEST
To: AAABEST
IMO she has the right to keep her legs closed. If not she has the right to have the foggiest idea of who the hell she was mating (like a stray dog) with. And he has the right to keep his pants zipped. If he wants to keep track of his offspring, maybe he should make sure he has the name and address of the woman he picked up at a bar. That personal accountability stuff works both ways. ;-)
To: Tired of Taxes
Actually I can't argue with any of your points. I wouldn't want to as you're right on target.
Indiscriminate mating is certainly a two way street.
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posted on
09/23/2002 6:50:04 AM PDT
by
AAABEST
To: Lorianne; montag813; right2parent; Stand Watch Listen; Orangedog; Jim Noble; Don Myers; IronJack; ..
"Conservatives" have a lot of baggage to unload if they every hope to reach the millions of women who are moderate-conservative, particularly on social issues such as abortion.Wrong again, homegirl.
The Republican Party needs to work harder to draw men and needs to cater to male voters.
That's the answer.
Republican politicians need to be asking themselves, "What do men want???"
To: Lorianne
Parthenogenesis is not biologically possible in humans.Tell that to your ideological soulmates at NOW.
To: Nathan Jr.
And what values have you sold out in order to?
To: Lorianne
If some of them alienate and frighten blacks and women who are fence sitters (the gigantic middlel spectram of voters), guess where they'll go? And if conservatives have to trade their soul for those votes, guess what they'll become.
If the price I have to pay to get a "fence sitter's" vote is the life of an unborn child (and millions like it), then I'll live without that vote.
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posted on
11/19/2002 4:54:52 AM PST
by
IronJack
To: Z in Oregon; ZGuy
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