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Gubernatorial Races Trending Toward the Democrats!
NewsMAX ^ | Tuesday, Sept. 17, 2002 11:02 p.m. EDT | [NewsMax.com's Fr. Michael Reilly contributed this report.]

Posted on 09/19/2002 3:19:59 PM PDT by vannrox

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To: IMRight
I keep seeing these kinds of predictions and I wonder why we measure success in this way?

Perhaps it's the soft bigotry of low expectations. :) A month ago, it looked like the GOP was going to lose 8-10 states. That's the only reason I'm measuring "success" in that way. Obviously, losing PA will hurt. But every state counts, even if it's not obvious. As another poster pointed out to me about HI - that state has two VERY old Dem Senators. I'd sure like for the GOP to hold the state-house for the next 4 years there, just in case.

21 posted on 09/19/2002 8:47:33 PM PDT by BlackRazor
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"Xlinton WAS elected. . . .
Twice
That should be a bumper sticker. If that doesn't get every patriotic American to the polls on election day, what will?"

Your comment bears repeating. His election (TWICE) makes me furious, perplexed and scared all at the same time.

On smaller classrooms-
Governor Bush announced the first in a series of education plans today.
Excerpt from RPOF email:
Governor Bush proposes bonding the growth in the state's sales tax portion of the Communication Services Tax (CST) revenue over the next five years to provide $2.8 billion in school construction and renovation funds for Florida's 67 local school districts. Through the selling of bonds, and
by taking advantage of the current low interest rates, Florida will receive immediate funds to begin building schools while guaranteeing payment of the original investment plus interest to the entity purchasing the bonds by a specified future date. "There isn't an educator in Florida who doesn't want smaller classes, but the Coalition to Reduce Class Size's initiative will do more harm
than good. The initiative would take away any flexibility I have as a principal or my teachers have to teach our students," said Anna Diaz, principal, University High School in Orlando.
The Coalition to Reduce Class Size is a McBride thing and would indicate a tax increase.

Link for entire press release:
http://www.rpof.org/rcs/rpof/pub_rpof/web_rpof/fld_main/fld_public/fld_press/rls_press_20020919Bush/index.jsp


22 posted on 09/19/2002 8:59:15 PM PDT by windchime
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To: Wait4Truth
"Do conservative judges matter to you?"

Do conservative judges matter to Bush?

I've seen him make the biggest fuss over the Hispanic judges he's trying to appoint. Do you truly believe they're socially and fiscally conservative?

Why would Bush appoint judges that are more conservative than he is?

Was Bush's appointment to head the INS a conservative?

Is a policy of wide open borders, unlimited illegal immigration and amnesty for illegal aliens part of the conservative agenda? That's not globalism?

Go to Marine Inspector's homepage and check out the numbers of illegal aliens that have crossed our borders since 9/11.

Is giving away the 35,000 acres that the Naval bases are on in Vieques and Roosevelt Roads, Puerto Rico part of the conservative agenda?

Go to the Republican website and read the 3 issues that the Republican Party is bragging about winning Hispanic support for.

Explain how any of those issues is part of the conservative agenda.

How is liberalizing the Republican Party's platform and pandering to the Hispanics the conservative thing to do?

23 posted on 09/20/2002 1:21:38 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
You are in error if you think all Hispanics are liberals. Second, they are becoming more and more of a major political force. If we don't fight for their votes, the RATS will run this country forever. The INS is a mess - Bush knows this and has spoken about it numerous times. The RATS fight him tooth and nail, calling him racist. He walks a fine line. It is interesting to note, however, that Bush and Fox are not the good buddies they once were. I think Bush has told Fox the open borders thing is not going to work. This President needs a Congress and Senate he can work with. Give him that and I think we'll see a lot of changes. Rome wasn't built in a day. He has to fight the RATS every moment of the day.
24 posted on 09/20/2002 9:35:27 AM PDT by Wait4Truth
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To: Wait4Truth
I've heard all of this baloney before. These last two years of Bush. His father's 4 years, during Reagan's 8 and before.

When Bush wanted to make citizens out of 16,000 immigrants in the military, that would have had to wait 3 years otherwise to apply for citizenship, he just did it by Executive Order. Am I right?

Bush could seal our borders the same way.

Did the Democrats force him to pull every sneaky trick in the book to try to get an extension of 245(i) through? NO!

Did the Democrats force him to break his campaign promise to the military and in turn promise the governor of Puerto Rico that the Navy would leave Vieques by 05/03/2003? No!

Did the Democrats force Bush to put an open borders, Libertarian, James Ziglar in charge of the INS, 08/06/01? No!

"The INS is a mess, Bush knows this..."

It sure is! Bush helped mess it up, when he should have been fixing it.

"You are in error, if you think all Hispanics are liberal..."

Can you name even one Hispanic that's both fiscally and socially conservative? I know a few that are against abortion and gay rights, but they're all for bigger government and more social spending. THAT MAKES THEM CONSERVATIVE?

Latinos Give High Marks To George W. Bush; Agree With Him On The Issues, President Job Approval Rate Reaches 68%

- 84% of Latinos approve of the Presidents plan to offer a $3,000 tax credit to uninsured workers.

- 73% of Latinos agree with the President that a prescription drug benefit plan should focus on assistance to low-income seniors.

- 83% of Latinos approve of President Bush's plan to normalize the status of 3.5 million immigrants through temporary workers program.

Tell me how any of these plans are conservative.

Tell me how any of these plans are going to LOWER my taxes.

"Second they are becoming more and more of a major political force..."

That's why Bush should be sealing the borders and enforcing the laws against hiring illegal aliens that are already on the books.

Instead he talks out of both sides of his mouth, while he puts a Libertarian in charge of the INS that lets more illegal aliens in!

You're not just mistaken, you've been TAKEN!<p

25 posted on 09/20/2002 10:28:32 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: windchime
Thank you, windchime. The Governor's plan is a good one.

I'm so angry about these amendments. We're forced to play defense, and where are we supposed to come up with the money to refute the amendment's claims this close to an election? Why should we have to anyway? There's no opportunity for debate...anyone with the money can send people out to collect signatures..."class size amendment" sounds so good. Next year they'll do what Rush joked about, put up a "Floridian vacation amendment" demanding free condos on the beach for all Floridians. We should get this on the ballot just to show how bad this amendment process is. Fla. Sen. Bob Graham heads up an institute to push for this loony method of legislating by conning the masses.


Former aide alleges Graham laundered money for initiative

Those donations could go instead to a Washington-based clearinghouse called the Initiative and Referendum Institute. In return for each donation, the Graham campaign would get a discount from a think tank director who owned the company the Graham campaign paid to collect its petition signatures.

"In other words, a $10,000 contribution would result in a $6,000 deduction from his bill," Gibson wrote in a Jan. 7 e-mail that explained the trade to Graham's Senate office operations manager.

"This is a good way to enable our supporters to help us even though they have to make (nonprofit) contributions," Gibson wrote. "Please see that this gets to the senator. He needs it as part of his arsenal when talking to folks about (Education Excellence for Florida)."


Initiative and Referendum Institute, bringing us those expensive and deceptive amendments like "class size" and state-paid pre-school, and high speed rails...
Many of us wonder why a federal Senator is involving himself in Florida's state education.
26 posted on 09/20/2002 2:49:58 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"Next year they'll do what Rush joked about, put up a "Floridian vacation amendment" demanding free condos on the beach for all Floridians. We should get this on the ballot"

Free condos!! That's the ticket! I say NO to everything else.

Thanks for the Graham info. He is also responsible for hiring Eleanor J. Hill. Links follow:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/753887/posts
http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm/include/detail/storyid/258194.html
http://www.kslaw.com/our_firm/press_releases/pr_05_30_02_2.html

Back to Governor Bush, his timing on his initiatives is great. Hopefully there will be enough press to illustrate to most that the need for the "class size amendment" doesn't exist.
27 posted on 09/20/2002 4:08:26 PM PDT by windchime
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; All
From the Wall Street Journal by way of RPOF

COMMENTARY
Rating the Governors
By STEPHEN MOORE and STEPHEN SLIVINSKI

The states are now mired in their worst fiscal crisis in at least a decade. The combined total of red ink in California, Florida, and New York alone could eclipse $40 billion in 2003. New York Gov. George Pataki recently moaned that "we are not facing a rainy day in New York.
We are facing a monsoon." That depressing scenario could apply to three-quarters of the debt-deluged states.

Outspending Bill Clinton

Most governors have complained that the financial troubles are a result of factors beyond their control: the recession, the stock market slump, new spending requirements as a result of terrorism, and exploding
health-care costs. In truth, the primary culprit has been the profligacy of the nation's governors themselves. In the past 12 years state budgets have increased by more in dollar terms ($240 billion) than they did in the previous 100 years. State spending in the late 1990s grew twice as
fast as the federal budget did: The governors somehow managed to outspend Bill Clinton.

Having refused to deal with their money problems by trimming bloated budgets, many governors are instead threatening major tax hikes for next year to replenish state treasuries. If that happens, 2003 could be the
biggest year for state tax increases ever.

Will the states ever learn from their mistakes? In the 1990-91 recession, many governors -- including Jim Florio of New Jersey, Pete Wilson of California, and Lowell Weicker of Connecticut -- tried to balance their budgets by enacting steep tax hikes on the rich, only to plunge their states into deeper fiscal holes. Meanwhile, many reformist
governors -- such as Michigan's John Engler, Arizona's Fife Symington, and New Jersey's Christine Todd Whitman -- cut tax rates during the downturn. The strategy worked: The local economies improved and these states generated more revenues when taxes were being cut than when their
predecessors raised taxes.

It is in the context of the current state fiscal crisis that we release the results of our sixth biennial fiscal report card on the governors. Governors that have cut taxes and spending the most receive the highest grades. Those that have raised taxes and spending the most get the worst
grades.
***The top three scores this year were earned by Republicans Bill Owens of Colorado and Jeb Bush of Florida and Democrat Roy Barnes of Georgia.***
F grades were assigned to the four most fiscally reckless governors: Don Sundquist of Tennessee, Gray Davis of California, Bob Taft of Ohio, and John Kitzhaber of Oregon.

Here are the grades of some of the governors of some of the biggest states: George Pataki of New York, B; George Ryan of Illinois, D; John Engler of Michigan, B; Jane Hull of Arizona, D; and Jim Hodges of South Carolina, D.

Gray Davis of California has recorded one of worst financial
performances of any governor in any state in a very long time. In his four years in office, the California budget has mushroomed from $74 billion to $101 billion. He inherited a $10 billion budget surplus; now the state faces a two-year $24 billion deficit -- the largest ocean of
red ink in the history of the states. The state payroll swelled by 25,000 employees during Davis's first three years in office, a larger increase than the next three biggest states combined. Moody's has downgraded California bond ratings twice already. It may take years for the state to dig out of this fiscal ditch.

Bill Owens of Colorado, by contrast, was recently praised by National Review as "America's best governor." He is also one of the most fiscally tight-fisted. Thanks to a model state spending limitation measure, Mr.Owens has provided tax rebates to Colorado citizens four years in a row,
saving the average Colorado family $1,500. He also cut the income tax rate from 5% to 4.75%; slashed the taxes on capital gains, interest, and dividends; and businesses have received property tax relief. Colorado's economy has flourished.

***Jeb Bush of Florida is the real tax-cutting fiscal conservative in the family. In a state with no income tax, Gov. Bush has cut the Florida property tax by $1 billion, and in 2001 he cut the business intangible tax by another $600 million. Earlier this year he took the unusual step
of walking the halls of the Capitol himself asking members of both parties to oppose a sales tax hike sponsored by members of his own party. Mr. Bush has also distinguished himself by promoting one of the most innovative choice-based school reforms in the nation -- a plan that allows students in failing schools to go to any public or private school of their choice -- and by enacting tort reform legislation fiercely opposed by the trial lawyers.

Roy Barnes of Georgia may be the pre-eminent tax-cutting Democrat on the national scene. In his first year in office he pushed a Taxpayer Bill of Rights that has saved Georgia homeowners $350 million so far. He has also cut the unemployment insurance tax in Georgia, resulting in tax
relief of over $1 billion to businesses and workers. He now wants to cut the state capital gains tax. When the recession hit, Mr. Barnes imposed a freeze on state hiring and made across-the-board cuts of 2.5% in the 2002 budget and 5% in the 2003 budget. No wonder Gov. Barnes is
considered a potential presidential contender.

George Pataki of New York was elected in 1994 to bring fiscal sanity and return economic prosperity to the nation's most taxpayer-hostile state (taxes are 40% above the national average). In his first term he arrested New York's downward spiral by cutting income taxes 25%, keeping
spending to below the rate of inflation, and chopping the
highest-in-the-nation inheritance tax. He converted $5 billion of red ink into a record $2 billion surplus.

Alas, the policies of Mr. Pataki's second term have been closer to former-New York Gov. Nelson Rockefeller than those of Ronald Reagan. Fiscal '98 and fiscal '99 budgets grew five times as fast as his first-term budgets. He enraged taxpayer groups by agreeing to a $2 billion taxpayer giveaway to one of the largest unions in the state, in exchange for its endorsement. New York is a more tax-payer friendly state now than when Mr. Pataki first arrived, but the budget in Albany is still one of the most bloated in the nation.

A Lesson for Governors

The lesson of the 1990s is that governors can't tax their way back to prosperity. An analysis by the American Legislative Exchange Council of state tax policy during the past decade found that the 10 states that cut taxes the most created twice as many new jobs as the 10 states that
raised their taxes the most. In investment terms, it's always wise to short states that are raising tax rates.

That's a lesson that the governors -- of both parties -- ignore at their own peril.

Mr. Moore is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute. Mr. Slivinski is
director of fiscal policy studies at the Goldwater Institute in Arizona.

28 posted on 09/20/2002 4:28:36 PM PDT by windchime
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To: windchime
windchime, that is a wonderful post. Would you consider posting it as a separate thread? It is a fine testimony to Jeb's managerial skills, his hard work and determination...he fought more than a few battles...and won.
29 posted on 09/20/2002 6:35:51 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
It is posted. The reason I hesitated to post initially is that I have no direct link to The Wall Street Journal to source.

Really good for JEB! And he didn't have to FAKE it!
30 posted on 09/20/2002 7:15:10 PM PDT by windchime
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