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Gubernatorial Races Trending Toward the Democrats!
NewsMAX ^ | Tuesday, Sept. 17, 2002 11:02 p.m. EDT | [NewsMax.com's Fr. Michael Reilly contributed this report.]

Posted on 09/19/2002 3:19:59 PM PDT by vannrox

Tuesday, Sept. 17, 2002 11:02 p.m. EDT

Gubernatorial Races Trending Toward the Democrats

Stuart Rothenberg of Roll Call.com is sounding some bad news for the GOP in this November's gubernatorial elections. He predicts that 2002 will be a bad year for incumbents, due to budgetary problems.

Since 23 of the 36 governors up for re-election are Republicans, the GOP is likely to take a hit.

Presently, Democrats appear likely to win contests in Michigan, Illinois, and Pennsylvania, while Republicans are struggling with races which should be easy.

In California, for example, Republican challenger Bill Simon is striving to gain momentum against Governor Gray Davis, who carries high negative poll numbers.

While Republicans are well-positioned to win in Alabama, Alaska, South Carolina, New Hampshire, and Iowa, Democrats are still expected to gain between three and six statehouses this fall.

[NewsMax.com's Fr. Michael Reilly contributed this report.]

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It is entirely possible...
1 posted on 09/19/2002 3:19:59 PM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox
My only consolation is the House and Senate is trending towards us.
2 posted on 09/19/2002 3:25:43 PM PDT by finnman69
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To: vannrox
Democrats are still expected to gain between three and six statehouses this fall.

Those projections are actually an improvement from only a month or so ago. If the GOP can hold the Dems' net gain to under +5, I think that would be a victory of sorts.

For a comparable projection, Larry Sabato (Center for Politics) says the most likely outcome is a +4 (net) gain for the Dems.

3 posted on 09/19/2002 3:27:50 PM PDT by BlackRazor
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To: vannrox
I predict that America will surprise the press and prove that they understand the cost and importance of the war on terrorism. The Democrats are trotting out tired DNC rhetoric as if 9-11 never happened. My elderly mother isn't asking for free drugs, and we don't think the additional billions to pay for a "smaller class size" amendment makes any sense (do they think we're stupid?). We do think that the economy can be helped by tax cuts, fewer regulations, tort reform...the trial lawyers are costing us in $$$ and businesses, and other proven economic boons the Democrats ignore in favor of the same failed rhetoric. Rant over.
4 posted on 09/19/2002 3:31:43 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
This smaller class size ploy seems ridiculous. My sister teaches 1st grade in Calif. and now has only 19 or 20 students each year. And still complains about the work-load. Of course, many are "minorities" and some of those with other languages so that contributes to the challenge, I guess. But I recall huge classes when I was in school and we still managed to learn and interact effectively with the teacher, too.
5 posted on 09/19/2002 3:40:31 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: vannrox
Not necessarily a bad thing -- if you have Dem Governors and a Republican US Congress and Presidency. The Dem Gov's have to balance state budgets, unlike the Feds. So we have in the US legislative and executive folks more oriented (in a perfect non-RINO world) to keeping spending down, and in the State's we have folks who wish they could spend but can't -- not without causing their party the public's discontent arising from raising taxes.

It means that the GOP national guys get to twist the arms of the Dem Governors if they want federal pork, and the Dem Governors will lobby in their own party so as to check the Dem radicals in the US Senate and House.

6 posted on 09/19/2002 3:46:57 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"(do they think we're stupid?)"

Well . . .

Xlinton WAS elected. . . .

Twice

7 posted on 09/19/2002 3:47:41 PM PDT by KeyBored
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To: vannrox
"Gubernatorial Races Trending Toward the Democrats"

'course here in NY we have a Gubernatorial race going on.

We don't have that problem . . .

We have two Democrats/Socialists running - Pataki (Democrat-Lite) and McCall (Democrat)

It truly doesn't matter which one wins.

8 posted on 09/19/2002 3:52:31 PM PDT by KeyBored
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To: vannrox
In California, for example, Republican challenger Bill Simon is striving to gain momentum against Governor Gray Davis, who carries high negative poll numbers.

I haven't seen Davis' ad lately about the Simon fraud conviction that was overturned. I guess he pulled that one. However, Davis trotted out the other ad about the Simon business seeking damages from the government for the bad-faith deal involving the S&L the family bought that failed.

The facts are that Congress created a "good-will" tax credit for businesses who bought failing Savings & Loans during the S&L bailout. For some companies, the only way it was at all profitable to buy the failing S&Ls was with the "good-will" credit. The Simon business was one of those that needed the credit in order to buy the failing S&L. The year after Congress approved the "good-will" credit that others took advantage, Congress reneged and revoked the credit, causing businesses that bought S&L's (as a favor to the gov't) to now be in a losing position. Many businesses are suing the government for bad-faith dealings and breach of contract.

Davis is spinning this in his ad claiming that Simon is going back to court to blame the government for his failing business, and how can we trust Simon with California when he can't run his own business?

-PJ

9 posted on 09/19/2002 3:58:19 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too
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To: BonnieJ
This smaller class size ploy seems ridiculous. My sister teaches 1st grade in Calif. and now has only 19 or 20 students each year. And still complains about the work-load. Of course, many are "minorities" and some of those with other languages so that contributes to the challenge, I guess. But I recall huge classes when I was in school and we still managed to learn and interact effectively with the teacher, too.

I know exactly what you mean. When I was in Jr High School the class size was 35-40 students and we all did well for the most part.
12 posted on 09/19/2002 4:01:44 PM PDT by Brush_Your_Teeth
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To: BonnieJ
This smaller class size ploy seems ridiculous.

It's diabolical, imho. They know it won't help the kids...but it does require plenty of new teachers, more NEA control of local elections, etc.

For an estimated cost of the Florida proposed amendment (supported by the far left Dem. candidate for Gov. Bill McBride):
The First Constitutional Amendment Estimating Conference Puts an Official Price Tag on Class Size Initiative:
Reducing class size to the prescribed limits would be a challenging undertaking. Without a significant overhaul of state spending patterns, the class size proposal would likely require some new or increased taxes. A 1-penny increase to the state's 6-cent sales tax would raise $2.9 billion (based on FY 2004 estimated collections.).

To further illustrate the scope of the estimated required investment, the gross receipts tax on utilities, which funds public school construction, raises less than $800 million annually. Moreover, it would take a tripling of the state corporate income tax to raise the additional revenue called for in the estimates. In fact, four major tax sources combined (gross receipts, corporate income, beverage, and tobacco taxes) are expected to bring in $2.97 billion in FY 2004, so it would take a doubling of all those to raise the revenue. Lastly, a state personal income tax (currently prohibited by the state Constitution) of 1 per cent of Floridians' federal taxable income would raise approximately $2.4 billion.


McBride's solution: a .50/pack tax hike per pack of cigarettes.
13 posted on 09/19/2002 4:24:22 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: KeyBored
Xlinton WAS elected. . . .

Twice

That should be a bumper sticker. If that doesn't get every patriotic American to the polls on election day, what will? (^:

14 posted on 09/19/2002 4:26:11 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: KeyBored
"We have two Democrats/Socialists running..."

It's the same in most of these races. Republicans aren't giving conservatives a reason to vote for them.

15 posted on 09/19/2002 4:27:24 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
Tennessee's gov race is nip and tuck. The demon-rat is trying to sound conservative. Was shown trap shooting first day of dove season. Is anti-income tax...for the FIRST term but does NOT rule one out for the second term.
16 posted on 09/19/2002 6:11:45 PM PDT by GailA
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To: 4Freedom
That's ridiculous! Do conservative judges matter to you? That's reason enough to vote for Republicans. The "there's no difference between Republicans and Democrats" just doesn't wash anymore. Our President has given the finger to every globalist idea he has come in contact with - disproving another pre-election Bush lie.
17 posted on 09/19/2002 6:51:04 PM PDT by Wait4Truth
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To: vannrox
Yeah, but Tax Hike Mike Easly of NC will be gone in 04 along with some other Dem govs.
18 posted on 09/19/2002 7:23:23 PM PDT by TC Rider
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To: BlackRazor
Those projections are actually an improvement from only a month or so ago. If the GOP can hold the Dems' net gain to under +5, I think that would be a victory of sorts.

I keep seeing these kinds of predictions and I wonder why we measure success in this way?

This isn't the House or Senate we're talking about here. The gross number doesn't mean all that much.... it's WHICH states we win/lose that matters.

PA will hurt. TX would hurt ALOT (though I doubt it's in too much danger) since it hurts Bush and the party (and keeps us from picking up 3-4 seats in TX in 2004 from redistricting)

On the other hand, If we win CA I won't mind a 5 seat net loss because that's nationally a big win. If we take CA AND MD without losing TX or NY it's actually a good year for republicans.

19 posted on 09/19/2002 7:24:28 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: vannrox
It's only natural that they'll win gubernatorial races, after all, they are all gubers!
20 posted on 09/19/2002 7:39:30 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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