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Filming Up Women's Skirts Is Legal In Washington
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Posted on 09/19/2002 2:24:51 PM PDT by chance33_98


Filming Up Women's Skirts Is Legal In Washington
Men Arrested For Shooting Up Women's Skirts

POSTED: 3:38 p.m. EDT September 19, 2002

OLYMPIA, Wash. -- Photographing or videotaping up a woman's skirt in a public place doesn't violate Washington state's voyeurism law.

That's the ruling from state Supreme Court Thursday. The case involved two men arrested for shooting up women's skirts without their permission.

One case was at a mall in Union Gap in 1999, the other at the Bite of Seattle in 2000.

In a unanimous ruling, the court found that the voyeurism law only protects people in places where they have a reasonable expectation of privacy.

Justice Bobbe Bridge called the behavior of Sean Glas and Richard Sorrells "disgusting and reprehensible" but said it's not illegal.


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To: AAABEST
Some of us are old enough to remember the urban legend about the guy who glued tiny mirrors to the top of his shoes and went up to girls in the halls of his school.

I might have tried it but my eyes were too bad--I couldn't see my shoe tops and couldn't afford glasses.

41 posted on 09/19/2002 3:02:43 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: Little Bush
The should be hung! (haha)

We actually still hang people here in WA. I allways thought that was kinda cool for the capital punishment sentence. One of the last guys the state had on death row to be exicuted I believe was to fat. They thought his head would pop off. So they gave him a cocktail in stead. I could be wrong on that maybe they did hang him.

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RCW 10.95.180 establishes the procedures for carrying out the death penalty in Washington State. Death shall be inflicted by intravenous injection, or, at the election of the defendant, by hanging. The Washington State Penitentiary, according to state law, is the designated facility where executions are to be carried out.
42 posted on 09/19/2002 3:05:01 PM PDT by ezo4
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To: chance33_98
Bid deal. Very few women wear skirts these days, there are probably now more male transvestites that wear skirts than women.
43 posted on 09/19/2002 3:05:06 PM PDT by waterstraat
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To: chance33_98
In my era women/girls didn't wear patent leather shoes because...?

If the Washington Surpreme Court wished to maximize this pronouncement they could have held a press conference in BeaverTown Washington!

44 posted on 09/19/2002 3:05:08 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: chance33_98
RE:Photographing or videotaping up a woman's skirt in a public place doesn't violate Washington state's voyeurism law.
 
fine.
all right folks listen up. If your ever called for jury duty, in an assualt trial dealing with a husband, boyfriend, father, (or even son) who beat the living crap out of and hospitalized someone who was pulling this crap on a wife, grilfriend, mother, daughter, be advised of your right and duty to aquit them of all assualt charges.
45 posted on 09/19/2002 3:09:51 PM PDT by tomakaze
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To: paulklenk
I have seen reports lately about people who have installed hidden cameras in bathrooms, dressing rooms, shower areas, a tenant's bedroom, and similar places. Perhaps this law (which I have not read) was written to address those issues and thus was not written in a way so as to make filming in a public location illegal. If so, it could be that the judges' ruling was quite proper.

As to your question, I think it is reasonable for a woman to consider the area under her skirt to be private and not subject to being video-taped by strangers.

Perhaps the legislature could now address that issue. On the other hand, shall we have the legislatures try to criminalize every sort of obnoxious and unreasonable behavior under the sun? If so, what shall be the punishment for public farting of for honking at the car in front of you the second the light turns to green?

46 posted on 09/19/2002 3:12:28 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: chance33_98
All righty then, Washington FReepers need to find out, which Idiots on the Supreme Court voted this way and make sure they get voted out at the next opportunity. I couldn't find who voted how, but here's the court directory.

 
 Supreme Court 
415 12th St W , PO Box 40929
 Olympia    98504-0929  
   General Information     360-357-2077  
   Alexander, Gerry L., Chief Justice      360-357-2029  
   Bridge, Bobbe J., Justice      360-357-2049  
   Chambers, Tom, Justice      360-357-2045  
   Ireland, Faith, Justice      360-357-2033  
   Johnson, Charles W., Justice      360-357-2020  
   Madsen, Barbara A., Justice      360-357-2037  
   Owens, Susan, Justice      360-357-2041  
   Sanders, Richard B., Justice      360-357-2067  
   Smith, Charles Z., Associate Chief Justice      360-357-2053  
   FAX Number 360-357-2102  
   E-mail Address: supreme@courts.wa.gov
 

47 posted on 09/19/2002 3:15:14 PM PDT by Kermit
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To: Little Bush
Well, not that there is anything wrong with that.........
48 posted on 09/19/2002 3:15:16 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: wildbill
I was too fat, I couldn't see my shoe tops.:^0
49 posted on 09/19/2002 3:16:41 PM PDT by Kermit
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To: chance33_98
In a unanimous ruling, the court found that the voyeurism law only protects people in places where they have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
Unless the Court ruling worded it at least somewhat differently than this reporter did, this is insane. You have a reasonable expectation of privacy under your clothes. Otherwise, why the hell do we wear them? (at least when the weather is nice.)

patent  +AMDG

50 posted on 09/19/2002 3:20:51 PM PDT by patent
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To: Kermit
John Candy bump
51 posted on 09/19/2002 3:22:18 PM PDT by freedomlover
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To: mhking
By the way, how're yo mamma'n'em?

Aw, man, mama 'nem straight. ;-)

52 posted on 09/19/2002 3:22:24 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: HEY4QDEMS
...I would take his camera and use it to give him a complete colon exam.

Hey! Easy on the visuals!

Got me feeling all creepy now.

53 posted on 09/19/2002 3:28:29 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: Wright is right!
...anyone on the flight below her can look all the way up to Toledo.

And all the way to the horizon over Lake Erie.

54 posted on 09/19/2002 3:32:19 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: Wright is right!
If someone makes themselves visible - wittingly or unwittingly - it isn't a crime to view what one is displaying.

Michael,

It's one thing to unwittingly view what one is displaying, and another to shoot photos. If you believe that it is acceptable for someone to take photographs of females in such a manner, then let me know when you use a bathroom in a public place and I'll bring my camera to shoot your photo and distribute via the Internet.

55 posted on 09/19/2002 3:44:54 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: paulklenk
Actually, when the legislature wrote the anti-voyuerism law it wasn't very good... this, imho, is an invitation for the legislature (a dem majority, btw) to actually rewrite it and see if they can do it right this time... at least teh court didn't try to write new laws from the bench...

Also, 4 of the 9 judges are females.... ;0)
56 posted on 09/19/2002 4:21:52 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Kermit
All 9 voted - the result? 9-0...

The legislature clearly goofed up... the law will be fixed VERY quickly, one can be certain...
57 posted on 09/19/2002 4:25:05 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: jennyp
Have you seen this?
58 posted on 09/19/2002 4:25:43 PM PDT by Junior
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To: chance33_98
As the undisputed expert on the workings of the Washington State Supreme Court, I am in complete agreement with the WA Supreme Court in this case. If you want to read the opinion: Push this Puppy

They've screwed up a lot of other decisions lately, but they got this one right.

59 posted on 09/19/2002 4:36:08 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Kermit
When you call the number for the WA Supreme Court, tell them that Don said to say "Hi". They will know who you are talking about.
60 posted on 09/19/2002 4:38:08 PM PDT by connectthedots
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