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Police searching for woman seen beating child
WNDU ^ | 9/19/02

Posted on 09/19/2002 1:21:20 PM PDT by TomB

The Mishawaka Police Department recently received a surveillance video taken from Kohl's Department Store on Grape Road in Mishawaka. The video shows a young girl, approximately four-years-old, apparently being severely beaten. Police are asking for the public's help in tracking down the woman and young girl. They say they are very worried about the girl's safety and believe she needs to get medical attention immediately.

Police say the two women caught the attention of security personnel at Kohl's. Detective Chief Mike Samp of the Mishawaka Police Department reports, "They had some items that they took into Kohl's to try to receive monies for and for whatever reason they were refused. They exchanged and they were asked to leave the store." The cameras followed them to the car and caught the incident on tape.

The assault

The girl, who police believe is just four-years-old, got into the car. Her mother looked around and then for some unknown reason the assault began. According to officials, the little girl received at least five initial blows before the she was hit and shaken several more times. At one point during the assault the woman grabbed the child by her hair. Once in her car seat, she was punched in the face more than a dozen times. The assault lasts just over 25 seconds.

Immediate concern is for child's safety

"Oh my God!" That was the response of Dr. Arnold Del Pilar of the Ironwood Medical Center upon reviewing the surveillance tape. "Punching her?I mean, [this is] blunt head trauma. This child needs to be medically evaluated," he stated. Dr. Del Pilar consulted with police and police agree with his statement. That is why police are asking for the public's help. Deputy Prosecutor of St. Joseph County, Maggie Jones stated, "Our immediate concern, as Chief Samp has stated, is to locate the child and to get the child out of that environment. It made me sick to think that that child is still with that mother and, quite frankly, if that mother is willing to do that in a parking lot, what is she doing at home?"

Family is "less than helpful"

The video camera was able to get a picture of the Texas license plate on the white SUV. Police found the car and talked to family members, but they called the family less than helpful. Chief Samp reported, "We spoke with family members. They have indicated to us that the suspect and the victim have left the state." However, police believe the woman and her daughter may still be in the area and are searching for the little girl to make sure she is okay. Police describe the family as mobile and not cooperative. They are not releasing a name at the time because they do not know if the name they have been given is correct.

The mother's description is as follows:

* Blond hair

* 5' 6" or 7"

* 135 pounds

* 24 or 25 years old

Anyone with any information on their whereabouts is asked to call the Mishawaka Police Department at 258-1684 or you may also contact them via email at Police@Mishawakacity.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; goodsamaritan; surveillance
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To: Sloth
A friend in SC was struck by the photo of the beating mother of Mishawaka who looked to her like one of the group known as Irish Travelers. After reading the article about the itinerant lifestyle of the family she feels this may indeed be the case. The Irish Travelers, featured on 60 Minutes in the not too distant past often use aliases and it is a local joke about the diversity of state license plates for those living in their Murphy Village Compound.
161 posted on 09/20/2002 3:08:23 PM PDT by Oreo Kookey
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To: CJ Wolf
Honestly, I can't tell a darn thing with those pictures. I'd have to see the film, but from the pics here it just looks like she is trying to put the kid in the car seat, which can be difficult at times when the kid doesn't want to be belted in, but that's not a reason for a beating.

She repeatedly punched the little girl in the face 10 or 12 times AFTER the little girl was in her car seat. I hope they do something similar to her when she gets to prison. It's been on the news all day. I've seen the video, and it's sickening.

162 posted on 09/20/2002 3:22:04 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: steveo
Wanna bet hubby gives wife the same treatment?

I'd be inclined to think it'd be the other way around. She probably whacks him around a bit when she's having a "bad hair day"...

163 posted on 09/20/2002 3:25:13 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: glory
Fox has been showing it in every segment and it is horrific. Believe me. In fact, they give a warning each time to those who do not wish to see such cruelty. I have to leave the room.
164 posted on 09/20/2002 3:30:17 PM PDT by Sophie
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To: Chad Fairbanks
RE:I don't do abuse reports, but if you wanna do it yourself, feel free..
I meant sending one in on myself.
 
but I guess this kind of response is what I shoud expect from someone who thinks the severe beating of a child is no one else's business...
 
[Helps self to a big old heaping plate of Crow]
Just saw the vid. That wasn't discipline, that was a whacked out nutjob.
I think TrustButVerify was right. Some folks (guilty here) have an ingrained distrust of Authority - any authority - that's so deep it can be blinding, and shuts doewn reason. That and I do tend to dig in and not budge when people are trying push.
And I probably didn't communicate what was crawling up my nose about the whole thing from the beginning, so here it is:
New story, allegations of child abuse. hadn't seen the vid yet. "great, another parent going to jail for disciplining their kid" story.
Reporters have an agenda, and go for emotional impact over accuracy, damn near everytime, and having dealt with them (I had a good friend get murdered a few years back) I know this for a fact. This is one of the reasons they'll refer to a 20 year old gangbanger who gets himself shot breaking into some ones home as a "child"
Now the other thing - For every valid case of abuse (like this one) there are dozens if not hundrends of cases where CPS just flat runs amok, stealing kids for little or no reason, taking babies from their mothers in the hospital without justification, sticking them in foster homes run by pedaphile dykes and queers, and flat out losing kids, etc (I can get links to these stories but it'll take time - btu I'm pretty sure anything I've got has probably already been posted on FR)
These things (the woman beating the kid) happen. there are bad natured, if not flat out evil people in the world. But this local story runs nation wide. Why?
So people can get hit with a barrage of interviews with CPS social workers crying crocdile tears and whining about how they just dont have the resources or neccesary powers to "save the children". Right. they do enough evil with what they got.They get a lot of milage out of things like this.
Look at the ratio of Valid problems vs. the trumped up stuff they use to meddle in family business.
Save the children from what? Christian parents who homeschool and make the kids do "excessive" chores are a danger and a menace, but it's perfectly allright for a couple leatherfags in SanFranCisco to adopt a baby boy?
This is what they do now. Imagine what they'll do with more. People get justifiably riled up when they flood te media outlets with despicable things like that. What will joe blow be thinking of when he goes into the voting booth to vote on "Save the Children Proposition XXX", the SUV wackjob, or say, the kid that CPS lost in florida or the folks wo gt their kids yanked for not letting the CPS vampires in the house, the homeschoolers in cali who are being shaken down and threatened or any of a hundred ( like i said, a can get links just not right away) other current abuses by CPS.
 
165 posted on 09/20/2002 4:02:55 PM PDT by tomakaze
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To: southern rock
Not allowed in the "village" anymore. Just heard on Court TV that the woman's sister is in custody merely for being present and "minding her own buisness".
 
I think I was declared "unmutual" a while ago. :-)
166 posted on 09/20/2002 4:04:52 PM PDT by tomakaze
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To: sinkspur
Tomakaze's a libertarian. Standing by while a woman beats the hell out of a child is one of their ten commandments.

They may stand by and do nothing, but they don't approve of such beatings.

Apparently, that makes all the difference. ;-)

167 posted on 09/20/2002 4:20:34 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: tomakaze
Wow... most people on FR would have just continued an argument that wasn't really there in the first place... Sorry if I came across as a dick, but after watching that video, and seeing the remark you made (I can understand it now, in hindsight, if you hadn't seen the video - the media does often blow things out of proportion) well, I boiled over...

:(

That being said, I think you and I are on the same page now, and that's a good thing... :0)
168 posted on 09/20/2002 4:20:48 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Chad Fairbanks
REWow... most people on FR would have just continued an argument that wasn't really there in the first place... Sorry if I came across as a dick
 
Same here :-)
 
That being said, I think you and I are on the same page now, and that's a good thing... :0)
 
Most of us are on the same page I would think ( or else we wouldn't be posting here, using FR for news, etc.)
That Luis fella that does a FRradio show was on to something when he did a show about the possible cause of all the flamewar stuff thats been going on lately. It was pretty interesting, and I think he (or a caller - I was at work so was "background listening") pretty much nailed the reason spot on.
 
I might make up some kind of survey checklist and stick it up in vanity or something just to see where everybody's at on hotbutton issues for the sake of curiosity.
169 posted on 09/20/2002 6:30:05 PM PDT by tomakaze
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To: tomakaze
That Luis fella that does a FRradio show was on to something when he did a show about the possible cause of all the flamewar stuff thats been going on lately.

Darn... I don't get much opportunity to listen...

170 posted on 09/20/2002 6:44:33 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Here's the most recent Archive list. I think it was a couple shows ago, but before the las vegas trip.
171 posted on 09/20/2002 6:49:48 PM PDT by tomakaze
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To: tomakaze
Thanks!
172 posted on 09/20/2002 6:51:52 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Oreo Kookey
RE:A friend in SC was struck by the photo of the beating mother of Mishawaka who looked to her like one of the group known as Irish Travelers.
 
Looks like you're friend called it right:
Fort Worth-based Irish Traveller
174 posted on 09/23/2002 12:25:38 PM PDT by tomakaze
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