Posted on 09/17/2002 9:01:19 PM PDT by mhking
Morality is a religious issue and is the prerogative of the church.
Morality is a religious issue and is the prerogative of the church.
And as such should not be the basis for a law.
Uh oh, an appeal to "society". Who knows what that means?
The line of reasoning that says, "It does not violate my physical rights, so it should be legal" defense is invalid here, I believe. If, for instance, two people publicly engage in intercourse on the sidewalk, it would not stop me from going to work, earning a living, etc. But should that be somehting we are forced to live with? By the same token, should families be forced to raise their children around the moral and physical filth that open prostitution engenders.
Really? And you are absolutely certain of this? The whorehouses are so publicly high-minded that they will fire a girl "on the spot" if they view sex occuring without a condom?
Do you think a prostitute wants to risk a six figure income as well as her own health?
Of course! They wouldn't be engaged in such a risky, dirty business otherwise. A condom may not stop the HIV virus from transferring from partner to partner. They are literally playing Russian roulette with their very lives. Most women who get involved in prostitution have severe emotional and mental issues that they have failed to deal with.
Morality is the perogative of the church to preach to the world. All people are liable for a moral law. Without it governance becomes impossible, and a society will not remain free.
Morality is the perogative of the church to preach to the world. All people are liable for a moral law. Without it governance becomes impossible, and a society will not remain free.
Who determines which church the supposed liability is owed to? Do we all owe liabilities to all possible churchs? Or only to the one we choose to believe in? Or some combination of the above options. As you can see, governing on that basis is impossible.
Do you see why seperation of church and state is so critical to the survival of the nation.
Your claim that all people are liable for a moral law is ridiculus.
Really? And you are absolutely certain of this? The whorehouses are so publicly high-minded that they will fire a girl "on the spot" if they view sex occuring without a condom?
Do you think a prostitute wants to risk a six figure income as well as her own health?
Of course! They wouldn't be engaged in such a risky, dirty business otherwise. A condom may not stop the HIV virus from transferring from partner to partner. They are literally playing Russian roulette with their very lives. Most women who get involved in prostitution have severe emotional and mental issues that they have failed to deal with.
You have numerous preconceived incorrect ideas about prostitutuion. The fact is that when it is operated as a legal regulated business none of the problems you cite exist.
You have certainly heard the statement that "When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns". Well the same thing applies to prostitution or for that matter drugs. When criminals are the ones running a business they don't care about health care or safety of their employees, all they care about is how fast they can make a buck.
Legalization is the only cure to this problem.
As for health reasons, don't buy that. So many of the American people are very active sexually and with multiple, very multiple, partners. Health reasons really couldn't not be the real reason doesn't really make a difference these days. Of course, STD has always been with us and certainly spread through prostitution, but that kind was usually curable, I have heard. Prostitution was illegal long before the horrific diseases we have today.
Prostitution has been illegal for may years before this massive drug problem, so that is not the reason. As for the assault, violence, if it were not illegal a lot of that would not happen.
Do not get me wrong, I do not advocate prostitution, I think it is an abomination, but it is a little hypocritical in this day and age to make it illegal.
There is another hypocritical side to prostitution - why are the customers not charged and prosecuted?
I don't think it is any of the above although many of the things you list are certainly a part of the prostitution scene - not speaking from personal experience - mind you.
Venereal disease ceases to be a problem when the sexual activity takes place in a business where regular weekly health checkups are performed on the workers.
Do you believe it is in society's best interest to have women selling their bodies on the street?
No allowing prostitutes to perform their business on the street should not be allowed for the same reasons that most business are not allowed to operate on the street. Prostitutes should be licensed, regulated, and their place of business controlled by the same zoning regulations that cover all businesses.
Do you think that the only women who engage in prostitution are ones who decide to by their own free choice? No, prostitution is a dark and violent business, and has no place in a just society. It is not a victimless crime.
When prostitution is legalized criminals no longer control the business and prostitutes are able to choose their employer just like any other business. Do you really think a legal business would try to hold an employee against their will? The only reaon that any prostitutes are victims is because attempting to regulate morality creates a situation here pimps are empowered to control prostitutes.
However, making sure that government does not take over the church, and the church does not take over the government, is healthy, reasonable, and Biblical.
What I meant by my previous statement is that the church, through the guidance of the word of God, is responsible for teaching right from wrong. Morals and ethics come from God, and it is the churches job to preach them (among other things.) By "church" I mean any and all people who have been forgiven of their sins and bow to Christ as Lord.
The issue of disease is still not addressed, because many women and men will are left with broken bodies and destroyed psyches from his practice.
In my youth, I worked on some large industrial construction projects. Unitl laws were passed that penalized employers for promoting unsafe construction practices broken bodies were a not uncommon practice. You will always have accidents because construction is a risky business, but now the industry is safer than it used to be.
You cannot regulate the safety practices of an illegal business, in fact making it illegal just raises the risk for the workers. Legal business can provide insurance, retirement and other benefits for their workers. Illegal businesses cannot.
The church is certainly a good source for teaching right from wrong but I don't believe it is the only possible source. A child can certainly be taught that harming another person is wrong without faith being a source for the lesson.
As far as Christianity being the correct religion, I can't say that I agree with you. Although I was baptized as a Christian, in my fifty-one years I have seen too many atrocities perpetrated by so called Christians, all in the name of morality.
Actually, IMO that is why Christianity is losing favor in this nation. Anyone who claims to be strongly religious and moral and then performs acts that show themselves to be hypocrites damages the perception of Christianity as a whole. I guess I have just seen too much hypocrisy to continue to believe.
So true.
Also, those same 18 year olds can be sent to war to die for a country that does not allow them to buy beer.
Second, right and wrong and truth must come from God. They cannot come from anywhere else. My personal opinion really isn't worth more than yours. How can we tell between us? We must call on something higher.
Why should a child refrain from hurting others? Because his fellow man is made in the image of God and has inherent dignity because of that. We are God's highest creation, and He has forbidden us from destroying each other.
Without that we might as well regard each other as a bunch of animals, and after all we kill and eat animals. So I really have no source for my morality or the dignity of man with the God of the Bible.
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