[Illbay]

So you think that this newspaper is LYING and that no one said anything to them, right?

Most people, when complaining about the press, complain that they embellish the facts with their own spin. I think that's true.

What is "spin" about the straightforward statement "these people told us thus and such"?

That's a statement of fact, or it is a false statement.

To me, it sounds like it's true.

But YOU are saying it is a "four month old press rumor." That would mean that, four months ago, some statement like "unnamed sources allege that..." was made.

That isn't what happened. This paper said "we spoke to LE sources and THIS IS WHAT THEY SAID."

[John Jamieson]

I don't see much difference between:

1. "unnamed sources allege that..."

2. "we spoke to LE sources and THIS IS WHAT THEY SAID."

The same conversation could be described either way.