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To: Wonder Warthog
So, "not tipping off their search" is more important than respecting civil liberties??

That is the place of the judge that offers/denys search warrents. Without one, they have NO rights whatsoever to search the property. These police followed the correct procedure. The judge is the one that determines if there is enough evidence to enact a search warrent, not the police. Do I think police need to knock on the door of each person that they plan to search and say "hey, we are going to eat a donut in the car but we will be back in three hours to search your house if that is ok with you", then the answer is no. If you don't understand why, then you are unworthy of me investing any more time in debate with you. There is a reason the element of surprise turns up more reliable evidence than the other method. I don't think a school bus driving dope smoker would have submitted to a search in the first case. Do you? Do you really think that the pot would of not of been flushed if they were given time?

I can imagine all the Meth dealers that would love to have your property rights rules. They could do what they want on their property and only get busted if they left their santuary of home. If they could get the people to just enter their homes to buy the drugs, they could never be found guilty. No one could enter their property to obtain any evidence.

91 posted on 09/17/2002 1:47:12 PM PDT by LowOiL
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To: Lowelljr
"Do I think police need to knock on the door of each person that they plan to search and say "hey, we are going to eat a donut in the car but we will be back in three hours to search your house if that is ok with you", then the answer is no."

Strawman argument.

"There is a reason the element of surprise turns up more reliable evidence than the other method. I don't think a school bus driving dope smoker would have submitted to a search in the first case."

There is too much emphasis on "the element of surprise" based on informants. Sorry, but I would prefer not to arrest someone with less than half an ounce of marijuana and be more secure in my right not to have police smash down the door.

The "cure" is worse than the disease. Exactly who were these folks harming with less than half an ounce of marijuana??

Your "meth lab" argument is a strawman as well--we're not talking about meth labs here.

95 posted on 09/17/2002 3:49:54 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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