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This is the second time I am responding to threads like this. I would rather not but I feel compelled.

My father died on Flight 93. I have been to Shanksville. Last week I stood on the exact spot where the plane came down. Wally Miller, the coroner, has spoken with my mother many many times about what happened. And - I heard the cockpit voice recording in Princeton a few months ago.

NEVER did I have one moment to believe that the plane was shot down. I heard the struggle in the cockpit and the cries of "pull up" in the last few seconds of the flight.

The plane was was travelling at 575 mph. When it hit the ground it was upside down. The cockpit and first class cabin were ripped off and flew into the woods. The main fuselage telescoped on itself.

Since the human body is about 3/4 water you could imagine why there were relatively few remains found. Parts of my father were found at the crash site - as well as his wallet.

There was a very small debris field just over one mile away. But since the plane was travelling at 575 mph that is not unreasonable.

And yes, there was "debris" found about 8 miles away. But have any of the conspiracy theorist let you know that it was US Mail that was in the cargo bay? Probably not.

There is no doubt in my mind that the plane WOULD HAVE BEEN shot down - and RIGHTLY so - had the passengers not rushed the cockpit.

Lack of synchronization of clocks and perhaps the humanitarian effort of editing by the FBI so us families did not have to hear anything too graphic seems to make sense to describe any discrepencies.

- Chris

While it is hard not to be irritated about an issue with which you have such detailed and intiment knowledge, don't let the "alternate theories" on this forum cause you to cast it aside if you otherwise find kindrid souls here.

It is part to the nature of exposing corruption and decifering media distortion and spin to see that some of these see the light of day. Long term forum readers see them for what they are: Alternate Theories, even when they are presented by some that are heavily invested in their prominance.

Without such free wheeling critical thinking and investigation, much of the scandals of the Clinton era, the Democrat Party and the Gore Election Attempted Hijack would be completely undiagnosed.

Thanks for your first hand account and rest assured in the certain knowledge that the sacrifice of your loved one and his fellows will be acknowledged by all that read our country's history and value its future.

I think I speak for the majority of us here on this forum when I apologize for those of us who's critical thinking skills are somewhat intellectually challenged and hope that no hurt or offence has been caused by their wild speculation regarding the facts of this crash. To demean the great sacrifice of the brave souls who stuck the first blow in the war on terrorism and discount their efforts by insisting that they were cut down by their own country's government in the face of all the facts to the contrary is despicable and disgusting.

Sorry for your loss. You'll just have to endure those who can't think. 30 years from now, if there is an internet, there will be at least one discussion group formed around the premise that Flight 93 struck a flying saucer.

After all, it is possible, because our government has lied to us before.

Sorry for the loss of your dear father.