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Mark Steyn: How Bush blew his chance
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 09/16/2002 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 09/15/2002 9:34:11 PM PDT by Pokey78

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To: Texasforever
Bush has not used his "political capital" gained from 911 because he does not want to make the WOT a political issue.

What you say appears to be correct which leads a person to wander if WOT is not a political issue, just what is Bush’s political issue/agenda? Remove WOT from the table and what does he have? Nothing!

101 posted on 09/16/2002 6:11:14 AM PDT by varon
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To: jwalsh07
A veto is as loud as it gets. He's made it clear umpteen times that he will veto and why he will veto.

Did I nod off? What did he veto last?

102 posted on 09/16/2002 6:18:20 AM PDT by iconoclast
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To: nicmarlo
I still think Bush is a great President......but he has let his arms be twisted too much by those with no morals and no concern for this country (i.e., little Tommy fufu, Kennedy the murderer, and Leaky Leahy).

Steyn has some good points, but he's not taking into account the one thing that must never be said publicly. The "loyal opposition" of the DemocRATic Party will work to see the United States defeated in this war, if they think it will help them regain power. The klintons don't care about anthrax or nukes, because they know the dead will continue to vote democRATic in the big cities anyway. A few thousand, or a few million, dead Americans mean nothing to them.

The RATs' job is to deny Bush everything on both the domestic and international front. That way, they can proclaim him a total failure in the 2004 election. And if they can win a RAT majority in the House in November, expect a bill of impeachment against Bush and Cheney. That would be followed by pressure to "do the right thing" and resign, which klinton never did.

The raghead tyrants and their armies of islamic terrorists are dangerous, but they ain't got nothin' on Bill and Hitlery. So Bush has to constantly watch this other enemy of the American people, too.

103 posted on 09/16/2002 6:18:51 AM PDT by 300winmag
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To: Texasforever
What business dealings?

This is not a topic that I have any particular knowledge about, so I ask this question without bias to either you or Jack.

Haven't the Bushes and Cheney made fortunes in the oil extraction equipment/supplies business?

104 posted on 09/16/2002 6:35:05 AM PDT by iconoclast
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To: glorygirl
And if America doesn't know why by now, then America isn't paying attention.
105 posted on 09/16/2002 6:41:00 AM PDT by carton253
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To: Pokey78
I'm going out on a limb here - nothing strange in that - but PERHAPS GWB learned something about the politics of war when Bush41 was in office. A quick strike overnight success yields only short term popularity. If - and this is a HUGE if - there is to be a political angle to his war-time popularity then we have already learned the hard way that the time to play that card is not in the first half. I firmly believe from previous experience and talk with friends still on the 'inside' that things are progressing at an orderly pace.

My take: the administration knows that some big fights are still on the horizon for the military, so further war-time popularity/political capital can be expected - and that they are going to wait for a later date to use any horsepower they may perceive. There are bigger fish to fry than the education bill.

106 posted on 09/16/2002 6:41:16 AM PDT by BlueNgold
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To: iconoclast
Did I nod off?

Yep, the discussion was specifically about the Homeland Security Bill.

107 posted on 09/16/2002 6:43:18 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
the discussion was specifically about the Homeland Security Bill.

Thank you. I guess I nodded off when you were appointed ultimate definer of topic limitation, too.

108 posted on 09/16/2002 6:57:28 AM PDT by iconoclast
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To: BlueNgold
...PERHAPS GWB learned something about the politics of war when Bush41 was in office. A quick strike overnight success yields only short term popularity. If - and this is a HUGE if - there is to be a political angle to his war-time popularity then we have already learned the hard way that the time to play that card is not in the first half.

This appears to be both counterintuitive and in contradiction of events.

GHWB's popularity peaked at the end of the Gulf War. Where do you recall seeing him attempting to use his war-time popularity in the "first half?"

It's my recollection that he didn't play any card in either half, thereby squandering many opportunities. Bush41 thought he could ride his January '91 popularity to victory in November '92 by playing prevent defense. The consequence of this mistake was eight years of Clinton.

Political capital is different that political favors. Political capital can't be banked, it only evaporates in a vault. Political capital is accrued by the spending of it, provided it's investment results in further victories.

When a politician, particularly an Executive, is presented by circumstances or strategy with a windfall of political capital, that capital should be swiftly reinvested in winnable victories. Each subsequent victory will build momentum and augment that politician's political capital. In successfully following this strategy, the politician will retain the political captial he instinctively sought to save for the future victory he really wanted to win. Spending political capital in the now enhances the chances of victory in both the present and the future.

The Democrats are like much of the Arab world: they are emotional bullies, and cowards at heart. The best policy with either is victory after victory.




109 posted on 09/16/2002 7:16:44 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Pokey78
Bump !
110 posted on 09/16/2002 7:16:46 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: CWRWinger
**** a fighting, consistent pro-Constitutional conservative****

Unfortunately my congresscritter Ron Paul would never be elected by this debauched nation.
111 posted on 09/16/2002 7:18:25 AM PDT by mercy
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To: maica
In answer to your question.

See Ronald Wilson Reagan.
112 posted on 09/16/2002 7:19:41 AM PDT by mercy
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To: Texasforever
I don’t know when people will wake up to the fact that GW is NOT a politician...

They're all politicians, even the ones we like.

What Bush isn't, is a scumbag.

Bush has not used his "political capital" gained from 911 because he does not want to make the WOT a political issue.

This is thankfully untrue. As with all other matters concerning politicians, the War on Terror is a political issue. It cannot be otherwise, and this is not changed by the fact that the WoT's political alternatives present us with a choice between right and wrong which is more stark than usual. Success in the War will require successful mastery in the politics surrounding it.

Despite a few missteps, the President has largely mastered the politics of the WoT, and that's a sincere compliment.




113 posted on 09/16/2002 7:30:24 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: M. Thatcher
Great quote from Sun Tzu
114 posted on 09/16/2002 7:38:31 AM PDT by Notforprophet
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To: mercy
What about Reagan specifically? I want to know specifically where and when President Bush should appear to access this Bully Pulpit. I hear the criticism that he is not using it and all I want to know is what are people visualizing when they make that statement.
115 posted on 09/16/2002 7:59:26 AM PDT by maica
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To: mercy; Miss Marple; Howlin
President Bush will be speaking somewhere this morning, I just saw the promo on FoxNews - his remarks will be carried live at 11:55am. I am assuming that this is not the kind of Bully Pulpit to which you are referring .
116 posted on 09/16/2002 8:02:35 AM PDT by maica
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To: maica
What I mean is that he had LOTS of political capital, the problem with that capitol is that it has a short Shelf life.

He should have used the bully pulpit to get his judges on the bench, he should have used it to get his bills through the senate. He should have shouted from the rooftops about domestic things while his poll numbers were in the stratosphere.

He didn't and it's a shame that all that political capitol was wasted.

I know that he chooses his battles, but he had enough capitol for all of that and more, but he chose not to use it, and that I will never understtand.
117 posted on 09/16/2002 8:03:50 AM PDT by Aric2000
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To: maica
It would take a book or two to detail how Reagan did what he did and I'm lazy so I'll distill it down to a nubbin.

By the second term of Reagan average college studens in vast numbers all over America were identifying themselves as 'conservative'. Reagan had defined conservatism and linked it with a new resurgence and pride in 'The American Way.

He turned millions of disaffected babby boomers from Vietnam era depressives (like me) into proud Americans and made them think about what was really going on around this planet.

He did this speaking directly to the American people and LEADING. He defied his handlers and touched the heart of our society.

Then came GHWB and betrayed everything Reagan ever stood for. Then we got clintoon.

Twelve years of backsliding and debauchery.

Bush needs to understand this. If he could break the BUSH curse of mediocrity and institutionalized 'bureaucratism' that seems to be part of his genetic material ... he could be a great man.

I'm not holding my breath.
118 posted on 09/16/2002 8:10:43 AM PDT by mercy
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To: Howlin
Lots of truth in here, Pokey, whether we like it or not. Thank you, Howlin. (He's a loveable guy, sure, but his strengths are also his weaknesses I think.)
119 posted on 09/16/2002 8:18:21 AM PDT by RAT Patrol
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To: Aric2000
He should have used the bully pulpit to get his judges on the bench, he should have used it to get his bills through the senate. He should have shouted from the rooftops about domestic things while his poll numbers were in the stratosphere.

The bully pulpit is then a type of statement? Are you aware that he speaks in public almost every day? He specifically asks Americans to demand from their elected representatives in the House and the Senate, that they respond to his requests for his judicial nominations to be acted upon, that his Homeland Security Bill be acted upon,etc - I could go on. If you do know that then I will have to conclude that it is his style of delivering the message that doesn't reach the level of Bully Pulpit.

120 posted on 09/16/2002 8:20:52 AM PDT by maica
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