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To: Motherbear
And you believe the founding fathers and drafters of the constitution and the bill of rights intended for naked people parading around for money and someone else's jollies qualifies as SPEECH?

Yeah, right.

Porn existed when our constitution was being drafted. There were pornographic writings and drawings in existence. In fact, porn has been around as long as there have been writings and drawings. So yes, our founding fathers were aware of porn, and they did not outlaw it.

59 posted on 09/15/2002 12:55:48 PM PDT by meia
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To: meia
So yes, our founding fathers were aware of porn, and they did not outlaw it.

State laws against obscenity and blasphemy have been around since the founding, so you are wrong. The founders believed it was the job of the state to regulate such matters.

64 posted on 09/15/2002 1:03:53 PM PDT by traditionalist
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To: meia; Zon; traditionalist; Kevin Curry; Cultural Jihad
How can libertarians even talk with a straight face. Are they really that stupid? Do they think if they just repeate a bold lie over and over people will accept it?

EVERY State had laws against Pornography. Every Single State.

I posted a Court Case from the time. The men were found guilty of showing a pornographic picture, and they were punished. They appealed to the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania with the libertarian argument that what is done in private is okay and protected.

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court shot that down in flames.

Can you libertarians even read?

How can I spell this out for you?

E-V-E-R-Y S-I-N-G-L-E S-T-A-T-E H-A-D-E L-A-W-S A-G-A-I-N-S-T P-O-R-N-O-G-R-A-P-H-Y.

I also find it so amusing that when anyone suggests that when anyone suggests that we take America back to the laws of it's founding, they are called islamic or Taliban.

Were the Founders Taliban? Were the Founders Islamic? Were the Puritans Islamic or Taliban?

I am so sick and tired of libertarians saying that they represent the views of the founding fathers when our founders intended this nation to be built upon judeo-Christian morality and precepts.

I posted court cases and quotes from the founders, yet the libertarians pretend they don't exist and spout off with nonsense that the founders were dope smoking hippies who had orgies in the street.

74 posted on 09/15/2002 2:32:53 PM PDT by FF578
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To: meia
It is sort of amusing to see the mass of quotations (some of which are at best tangentially related to the topic), including some from Benjamin Franklin, author of the famous letter on why one should prefer older women. Henry Purcell, composer of some of the most exalted religious music of his day, also wrote some pretty raunchy stuff.

There wasn't any golden age of purity, people.
114 posted on 09/15/2002 7:07:23 PM PDT by jejones
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