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Reno Update: Broward County Now Reports Uncounted Votes
AP ^ | 9/15/02

Posted on 09/15/2002 3:44:26 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar

By Associated Press


September 15, 2002, 5:32 AM EDT

MIAMI --

Election workers in Janet Reno's stronghold of Broward County have found uncounted votes from last week's primary, though officials didn't say how many.

The votes were found Saturday in a precinct that first reported no votes, said Willie Weslie, project manager with Election Systems & Software Inc., which made the touchscreen voting machines used in the county.

That precinct, with 832 registered voters, was among 247 that Reno has asked officials to review in her battle with Bill McBride for the Democratic nomination.

"I don't know what happened in every case. I just know 1/8poll workers 3/8 had procedures and didn't follow them," said Weslie.

Weslie said poll workers in the precinct should have inserted a cartridge in the machines, which would have collected the votes when polls closed. But they did not, he said, so the empty cartridge made it appear that no votes were cast.

Workers examined touchscreen voting machines until shortly after 7 p.m. Saturday, and were expected to continue Sunday. The deadline for counties to report official vote tallies to the state is 5 p.m. Tuesday.

Election Supervisor Miriam Oliphant's office would not discuss the uncounted votes.

"Once the process is complete, the supervisor of elections will have a statement with respect to that and every other issue her office feels is necessary to assure the voters of Broward County that every vote will be counted," said spokesman Rick Riley.

Reno trailed McBride by 8,196 votes in unofficial counts from the state. The 247 precincts she asked to be reviewed have 15,841 voters.

Reno has also asked Miami-Dade County officials to check for lost votes. Officials there found more than 1,800 uncounted votes from four precincts Thursday, and were reviewing touchscreen voting machines to determine if more were unreported.

Miami and Broward counties used the same touchscreen machines made by Election Systems & Software.

Copyright © 2002, The Associated Press


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The votes were found Saturday in a precinct that first reported no votes, said Willie Weslie, project manager with Election Systems & Software Inc., which made the touchscreen voting machines used in the county.
ELECTION SYSTEMS & SOFTWARE - BETTER ELECTIONS EVERY DAY.
61 posted on 09/15/2002 8:40:33 AM PDT by Quicksilver
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To: Quicksilver
We are on the same wavelength. Read the statement from the CEO of Election Systems and software in post 59.

***ALERT*** to all news and print media; ***NEWSFLASH*** THE JANET RENO CAMPAIGN IS LYING!!!


62 posted on 09/15/2002 8:47:32 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Balata; EODGUY; AnnaZ; Mercuria; lowbridge; backhoe; JMJ333; patent; Salvation; Cap'n Crunch; ...
See post 59!
63 posted on 09/15/2002 8:52:43 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Yes, we are! I think this is all about making Jeb Bush look bad. There are no (thank God!) hanging chads to fall off this time.
64 posted on 09/15/2002 8:54:11 AM PDT by Quicksilver
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
This really deserves it's own thread, but I never seem able to do one. Here tis:

"Broward election problems no surprise
By Paul Lomartire, Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Sunday, September 15, 2002

"DADE CITY -- Pasco County Elections Supervisor Kurt Browning wasn't surprised by the election meltdown in Broward County. Nor was he surprised at the fierce criticism of rookie Broward election chief Miriam Oliphant.

"I think you'd find other supervisors would agree with me. We knew there were going to be problems in Broward," he said.

Browning said he became concerned about Broward when Oliphant began missing meetings of the election bosses from the 11 counties using ES&S machines for the first time. They got together regularly for months before the election, discussing problems and brainstorming solutions. The idea was to avoid the confusion and breakdowns that marred the state's presidential election in 2000.

Just about every conceivable machine problem was covered at the meetings, Browning said, from getting dependable poll workers to opening and closing polls electronically -- two issues that caused election day chaos in Broward.

"We spent days going through these issues."

But Oliphant "attended one, maybe two meetings personally," Browning said. "The other meetings she had staff attend." And it wasn't even the same staffer at each meeting.

"Broward had no consistent presence at the meetings," he said. "I have said from the get-go, supervisors have to be totally immersed in this process. They can't stand on the sidelines cheering the team on. They have to quarterback and make the calls. Are they going to get tackled? Sure they are. You have busted plays. You're going to get dirty. You've got to know what your system will and won't do, and it's not going to happen by osmosis."

Then, just 3 1/2 weeks before the election, Oliphant called Browning. "She said, 'I'll be getting my voter ID cards out,' and asked me when I was getting mine out. I said mine were out July 31. She said, 'You didn't wait for the redistricting?' "I said, 'Redistricting is over.' "She said, 'You're not waiting until all the court challenges are over?'

"I've been through three redistrictings," Browning said, "and I told her, 'The court challenges are over. I thought, 'What's she thinking about?'

"Then we got to talking about absentee ballots. She said she had the overseas out, but the others weren't. I said, 'Miriam, if you have to hand-count those, you have to get those ballots out.' She said she'd get them out that day.

"I hung up the phone and just started shaking my head."

Oliphant, a former school board member, has said she did nothing wrong. And Broward County Commissioner Ben Graber has said some of her problems resulted from getting the new machines so late. The state took months to approve the machines and the county also delayed its selection of a vendor, he said.

It wasn't the ES&S machines that caused Tuesday's mess in Broward, Browning said. His county used them, and the election went smoothly. Of course, Pasco doesn't have nearly the numbers of voters that Broward and Miami-Dade had to handle.

Browning hates that once again, much of the nation is laughing at Florida's apparent inability to hold a disaster-free election. "Selfishly speaking," he said, "I've worked too long and too hard for all of us to be lumped together as incompetent."

The state's elections supervisors are a tightly knit group, Browning said. "We talk about our problems. We are in this together. All you have to do is ask for help. "But Miriam never asked.""

It would be far too politically incorrect for the national media to criticize Miriam Oliphant, or heaven forbid, admit she might have her job because of her color. They certainly aren't going to call her a dumber than dirt party hack, who was just following the normal democrat practice of holding back votes till you found out you needed them.

But the media could, if it wanted to do so, investigate the pro-Reno precincts under Oliphant, and find out exactly who put those voting machines away before their votes were tallied. That had to be intentional. If not intentional, why didn't poll workers in those precincts raise hell election night when the results from their precincts came back with fewer votes than they knew for certain, had been cast.

65 posted on 09/15/2002 8:58:11 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
The democrats pleaded for these new voting machines. I think it's time to realize that we should never give the democrats what they want, because no matter what their ideas are, they never work right.
66 posted on 09/15/2002 8:58:37 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

I see another vote for Reno


67 posted on 09/15/2002 9:01:25 AM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
"Election workers in Janet Reno's stronghold of Broward County have found uncounted votes from last week's primary, though officials didn't say how many."

Surprise! The sasquach is setting the stage for one of her usual Stalinist political operations. Who knew?

68 posted on 09/15/2002 9:02:17 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
And, MY stupid Republican Party will wind up taking the heat and blame for this. They need to go on the offensive (TV, radio and print media) and put the blame on the Dem's. Let the "disenfranchised" know their elected voting officials are Dem's, not Republicans.

Don't remember who said it (maybe Rush), but he was right....We're the Stupid Party when it comes to public relations !!

69 posted on 09/15/2002 9:06:33 AM PDT by jmax
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Considering the pervasive use of this company's voting machines throughout the Unites States, does anyone know of any other claims of voting problems from any other states?

If not, is it the water in the Florida counties Reno is challenging (at least for now, until she can demand a state-wide re-count)? Can someone provide an explanation other than dem gerymandering?
70 posted on 09/15/2002 9:11:24 AM PDT by EODGUY
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I agree that Reno is neck-deep in Waco. It's frightening to think of her being a governor. And it's asking a lot to ask republicans to defend her position. But something stinks here. I smell set-up. It looks like they messed up on purpose to make Jeb Bush look bad. How hard is it to hit the 'enter' button to have your precint counted? Entire precints didn't bother to hit the 'enter' button, leaving all those votes uncounted.

They are framing Bush, those same places that gave republican observers the boot during the Chad Gore debacle.

Riiiiiiiiight. They screwed up the vote in Democratic counties so they could blame it on a Republican Governor.

Good thing we have you here to reveal these cunning plans.


71 posted on 09/15/2002 9:23:26 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: Goldwater Girl
You're right GG.

The clerk at the poll responsible for the voting machines had a special wipe/cleaner for the screens. If each precinct attended to the screens properly, there would be no "buildup".
72 posted on 09/15/2002 9:28:15 AM PDT by windchime
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To: EODGUY
After reading post 59, here is my personal conclusion.

It's not *really* per say about Reno losing, (the DNC know quite well...polls??? that McBride is a stronger contender vs. Jeb Bush and Mcbride has a far better chance than Reno of winning.)

So...this is to make Jeb Bush look bad. Therefore in the longrun helping their *real goal* of winning with democratic candidate McBride.

The media must print and tell the truth in post 59 quickly and the DNC propaganda will backfire.

73 posted on 09/15/2002 9:33:25 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
"The media must print and tell the truth in post 59 quickly and the DNC propaganda will backfire."

It will be interesting to see if the alphabet media and the New York Times even address the comments in post 59.

The poll result on my confidence level in major media outlets telling the truth is lower than the ratings for Phil Donahue's latest television debacle.
74 posted on 09/15/2002 9:40:48 AM PDT by EODGUY
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To: SkyPilot; 11th Earl of Mar; ponyespresso; wretchard; Seeking the truth; oldglory; Luke FReeman; ...
"Betch none of them are military votes."

DemocRATS and their voting base (comprised of every self-focused, lowest common denominator, parasitic & criminal group in society), have been taking this country down hill since their socialist idol FDR was president and initiated his "dependency on DemocRATS" programs.

They (along with a lot of naive pacifistic, *principled* single-issue religious kooks), have succeeded in emasculating America and making us vulnerable to attack --- because to be a dependent and/or a pacifist --- is to be emasculated and weak.

Is *peace* the absence of war? What IS peace, anyway? It depends on who you talk to.

To a tyrant/dictator/Marxist, peace is suppression, and/or annhilization, of the opposition.

To America's Framers, peace is the presence of freedom and justice and the absence of a threat to either of them.

There is nothing that deters a threat and preserves freedom and justice any better than the presence of a 'Peacemaker' and the determination to 'KEEP the peace' by protecting the weak and vulnerable and preserving their God-given rights from all enemies -- foreign and domestic.

Which party has a *reputation* for being "tough on crime"? DemocRATS?

When felons and other convicted criminals vote, do they vote Republican?

Which party has a *reputation* for wanting a strong national defense as is mandated by our Constitution? DemocRATS?

DemocRATS pushed through their "motor voter" idea so that when illegal aliens got their drivers' license, they were pushed by government employee/dependents (99% DemocRATS) to register to vote at the same time.

We know that there are aproximately 5,000 Al-Qaeda members and their supporters in this country right now. When they vote in our upcoming elections will they vote for Republicans?

I plan to get some bumper stickers printed up with these kinds of questions on them before the next election.

NOTE: the "5,000" figure comes from Bill Gertz' new book, Breakdown — How America’s Intelligence Failures Led to September 11. Gertz previously authored the 1999 bestseller, Betrayal—How the Clinton Administration Undermined American Security and see:

HERE

Which party tried to prevent the military votes from being counted in Florida during the last presidential election? Republicans?

Which party demands that we have *quotas* in hiring and firing based upon what they focus on: skin-color, gender, and deviant behavior, rather than on merit and competence? Republicans?

Need I go on?

THIS article below is the tip of the iceberg of just how fast things deteriorate in a country where the PC fairness/feminized/pacifist/dependency police (Marxist/DemocRAT mentalities and their useful idiots) are in charge.

Excerpts: "The National Reconnaissance Office exhibits an astounding lack of revolutionary innovation to get Al Qaeda," said David Thompson, president and CEO of Spectrum Astro, a company that has contracts with NRO and other military programs. "Over the past decade, the NRO has posted a sorry decline into mediocrity and aristocracy". Before moving to the private sector, Thompson was an engineer at NRO.

NRO has suffered a shocking decline in the technical performance of its satellites over the past several years," he said. They haven't told you about that because it has been kept behind closed doors."

Many NRO satellites never even got launched as they meandered their way through years of technical and program 'management mismanagement,' yet no one was held accountable."

Intel Operations Delayed As Iraq, Al Qaeda Loom Aviation Week ^ | 03-Sep-2002 | Craig Covault Posted on 09/08/2002 6:55 AM Eastern by wretchard

Of course, not even Cliton and Algore was held accountable for what they did since, as Algore said, "There was no controlling legal authority".

The fish rots from the head down.

Those who enable such mentalities to obtain power in this country, either overtly or passively, are accountable for endangering the weak and vulnerable because they are helping to make the emasculation of America possible.

Of the three catagories: "[1] Lead - [2] Follow - or [3] Get out of the way" ---- those who aren't determined to be (or back) peacemakers, just need to GET OUT OF THE WAY before you succeed in getting us all either enslaved or killed.

You know who you are, too.

75 posted on 09/15/2002 9:41:24 AM PDT by Matchett-PI
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To: Quicksilver
Exactly, My God the Fla. Democratic party spent a lot of money reviewing/practicing this to the point of making videos for poll workers to watch for proper training.
76 posted on 09/15/2002 9:42:18 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: jmax
The following is a link to a statement by the Republican Party of Florida Chairman, Al Cardenas. Tells the story.

http://www.rpof.org/rcs/rpof/pub_rpof/web_rpof/fld_main/fld_public/fld_press/rls_press_dempolitics/index.jsp
77 posted on 09/15/2002 9:50:19 AM PDT by windchime
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To: windchime
Windchime- check your DNC talk points again... it was JEB'S fault the machines' didn't work. They probably think he should have been there with the windex, too.

78 posted on 09/15/2002 9:50:48 AM PDT by Goldwater Girl
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To: windchime
Unreal! Look at what The Tallahassee Democrat is reporting. Jesse Jackson will appear soon-enough.

Black voters feel left out - again

79 posted on 09/15/2002 9:50:59 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Goldwater Girl
GG, if it weren't so depressingly true, your comment would be funny.
80 posted on 09/15/2002 9:54:38 AM PDT by windchime
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