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To: Luis Gonzalez
The President is REQUIRED by the un-Constitutional War Powers Act to withdraw all military forces at the end of 8 months. We've been bombing Iraq almost daily since the end if the Gulf War, in violation of the War Powers Act .

To: exodus
"No one took anything away from anyone..."

"...Now, the Constitution specifically says that only Congress can declare war, but that does not mean that it required the President to wait for an Act of Congress to set out our fighters to intercept a fleet of ChiCom bombers on its way to California, and then to secure ourselves, nor does it say that the US military can ONLY be deployed in the event of a declared war..."
# 262 by Luis Gonzalez
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I never said that the President didn't have the power and duty to respond to an emergency.

I'm saying that we are not in the middle of an emergency NOW. The emergency stiuation was over within days.

Congress had plenty of time to go over the facts, and issue a Declaration of War. It's been over a year, and Congress STILL hasn't decided whether we're at war or not.

Without that Congressional decision to make war, the President is acting outside of the Constitutional limits placed upon the Executive branch.

273 posted on 09/15/2002 1:37:49 AM PDT by exodus
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To: exodus
Without that Congressional decision to make war, the President is acting outside of the Constitutional limits placed upon the Executive branch

If he directs the Air Force to fly sorties, isn't he acting outside of the Constitutional limits placed upon the executive branch? How about the Marine Corp (although technically they're part of the Dept of Navy)

274 posted on 09/15/2002 1:40:30 AM PDT by Isle of sanity in CA
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To: exodus
"I'm saying that we are not in the middle of an emergency NOW. The emergency stiuation was over within days."

If it's all the same to you, I'll trust that decision to the people in charge of national security, not to you.

You are igonoring those points that you can't refute, such as the fact that the Congress isn't bound by the constitution to only enter our Armed Forces into a military conflict under the guise of a declaration of war.

Unless of course, you can show me that limitation in the constitution, or for that matter, any of these time limitations you seemed to have conjured up out of thin air.

BTW, this "emergency is over" attitude of yours is pretty amazing considering the fact that an active terrorist cell was just busted this weekend.

I guess we should all be grateful YOU'RE not in charge of national security.

Now, you continue to suggest, in spite of the voluminous amount of factual information that I have provided, that the president is acting outside his constitutional limits, but you do so without bothering to refute a single item I've posted.

That's called dodging.

That's also a win for me.

306 posted on 09/15/2002 8:33:21 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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