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Texas Republican Party Platform Thread 14
Brown County GOP Website ^ | June, 2002 | Republican Party of Texas

Posted on 09/12/2002 4:59:02 AM PDT by Bigun

The Republican Party of Texas Platform has been MUCH in the news of late because it is a CONSERVATIVE document and, as such, VERY controversial. I thought it would be an instructive exercise, for those of us who wish to do so here, to go through it plank by plank and see where we stand on these issues. Pursuant to that, I will post ONE plank of the Platform, every few days and anyone who wishes to can state their views as to that particular part of the platform.

Today, under the sub-heading Preserving American Freedom we find the following plank:

Elimination of Executive Orders - The Party demands the elimination of presidential authority to issue executive orders, presidential decision directives, and other administrative mandates that do not have congressional approval. Further, we demand a repeal of all previous executive orders and administrative mandates.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: party; planks; platform; republican; texas
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I have decided to score myself by assigning a score of between 0 and 10 points to each of the planks! 10 means I agree with EVERYTHING in it. 0 means I agree with NOTHING in it!.

0 points! While we have seen some presidents abuse this greatly I do not think that is sufficient reason to attempt to curtail the chief executive of our land from doing his job! Executive orders, presidential decision directives, and other administrative mandates should however have force ONLY within the executive branch of the government. The problem the writers are trying to address here is one of a weak, compliant, legislative branch rather than one of the presidency IMHO!

My running score to this point remains 112 out of a possible 140.

1 posted on 09/12/2002 4:59:03 AM PDT by Bigun
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P I N G ! ! !

Previous Thread"

2 posted on 09/12/2002 5:01:26 AM PDT by Bigun
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To: Bigun
Written political platforms are just "boob bait for the bubbas". They have NOTHING to do with the ACTUAL party agenda.

Watch what they do, not what they say.
3 posted on 09/12/2002 5:02:38 AM PDT by Mark Felton
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To: Mark Felton
Written political platforms are just "boob bait for the bubbas".

Perhaps that is because, as in Texas, the "Bubbas" get to help right it if the participate in the process! A GOOD thing IMHO!

Watch what they do, not what they say.

NO argument from me there!

4 posted on 09/12/2002 5:21:23 AM PDT by Bigun
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To: Bigun
...the "Bubbas" get to help right it if the participate in the process!

That's WRITE as in "...the "Bubbas" get to help WRITE it if the participate in the process" ya damn STUPID puter!

5 posted on 09/12/2002 5:25:38 AM PDT by Bigun
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To: Bigun
0 as well.

Congress has the power to overturn an executive order via legislation. But sometimes, action is needed.
6 posted on 09/12/2002 5:33:14 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: Bigun
I don't think I ever registered my score on the last plank, regarding the census. I could only give it a 5 because it was overreaching (as so much of this platform does).

On this plank, I'd give it a 0. In fact, I'd give it a minus number if I could.

There are far too many bad EOs in existence, but there are also far too many bad laws that Congress wrote in existence. The solution isn't to eliminate all laws or EOs.

My running total is 85.

7 posted on 09/12/2002 5:43:21 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Would you agree or disagree with this statement:

Executive orders, presidential decision directives, and other administrative mandates should have force ONLY within the executive branch of the government.

as a matter of constitutional law?

8 posted on 09/12/2002 5:58:10 AM PDT by Bigun
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To: Bigun
Executive orders, presidential decision directives, and other administrative mandates should have force ONLY within the executive branch of the government.

I don't know how it could be otherwise. No branch of the government can dictate to another branch except as specifically permitted in the Constitution (Congress can limit the jurisdiction of a court, for example).

9 posted on 09/12/2002 6:11:32 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Thanks!

I believe there in lies the problem! Some of X-42's executive orders went FAR beyond these bounds IMHO and no one did anything about it. That's my only reason for asking the question.

Roosevelt did the same thing BTW with the same result!

10 posted on 09/12/2002 6:17:50 AM PDT by Bigun
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To: Bigun
The Platform development activities at political conventions are strictly designed to passify bubbas and idealogues. It is analogous to sending the children off to the playground while the adults tend to the real business.
11 posted on 09/12/2002 6:36:13 AM PDT by Mark Felton
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Congress has the power to overturn an executive order via legislation.

BINGO!

The Executive Order is a means by which the President tells the Executive Branch how to carry out his wishes as pertains to current law. ANY EO which creates new law can and should be overturned by Congress. The fact that Congress never acts should be held against THEM not the President.

Zero (0)

101 of 140

12 posted on 09/12/2002 7:11:02 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: Mark Felton
The Platform development activities at political conventions are strictly designed to passify bubbas and idealogues. It is analogous to sending the children off to the playground while the adults tend to the real business.

Sad to say most of the adults stay home and let the nuts run these things. I have to double my heartburn pills every time I attend one.

13 posted on 09/12/2002 7:13:27 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
True. The real business, the real agenda, is not determined at these conventions. It is mostly established in one-on-one sessions between the fundraisers and the candidates.
14 posted on 09/12/2002 7:26:51 AM PDT by Mark Felton
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To: Bigun
Bush says: "US will return to UNESCO"!
15 posted on 09/12/2002 7:42:14 AM PDT by Mark Felton
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To: Mark Felton
Bush says: "US will return to UNESCO"!

...... was THAT in the platform? .......

16 posted on 09/12/2002 7:50:01 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: Bigun
I agree. Zero points. Running total 108 / 140 (0.771).

Pick a plank we agree with next.... This one is a whopper on the average.

17 posted on 09/12/2002 8:46:24 AM PDT by PetroniDE
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To: Bigun; HoustonCurmudgeon; Dog Gone; PetroniDE
Looks like we all agree on this one.

The Threads Me!
  1. Preamble
  2. Limiting the Expanse of Government Power
  3. Limited Federal Powers
  4. Constitutional Citations on Legislation
  5. Equality Under the Law
  6. Conduct of Public Officials
  7. Federal Judiciary Reform
  8. Judicial Restraint
  9. Law Enforcement
  10. Preserving National Security
  11. Property Forfeiture
  12. District of Columbia
  13. Census
  14. Elimination of Executive Orders
  1. 10
  2. 10
  3. 10
  4. 6.6
  5. 10
  6. 0
  7. 10
  8. 10
  9. Abstain
  10. 8
  11. 11
  12. 10
  13. 9.5
  14. 0

105.1 of 140

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Flyer

18 posted on 09/12/2002 2:18:19 PM PDT by Flyer
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More fun when we disagree on a plank. Then we get to educate each other on it.

Regarding Thread #9 (Your Abstain). That is chicken answer. I suspect you should give yourself a "5" (Neutral). Otherwise, technically you give yourself a "0", since your score is based on 140 points.

19 posted on 09/12/2002 2:24:48 PM PDT by PetroniDE
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How did you manage to give yourself an 11 on plank 11? Especially when the correct answer is zero? ;-)
20 posted on 09/12/2002 2:53:33 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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