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Posted on 09/11/2002 7:09:13 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Texas Eagle
I'm confused. Is the teacher asserting that there are people who are trying to prevent public school teachers from praying at all?
I'm not aware of any major organizations advocating such an agenda.
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posted on
09/11/2002 7:16:46 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
To: Dimensio
"I'm not aware of any major organizations advocating such an agenda. "
Welcome to the world. Turn off your TV and quit watching returns of Seinfeld and maybe you wouldn't ask such ignorant questions.
To: Texas Eagle
P.S. Excellent satire.
To: PatrioticAmerican
I don't watch Seinfeld. Point to an example of a major organization trying to prevent a teacher from praying. I'm not referring to leading a class in prayer, I'm referring to an attempt to prevent a teacher from praying under any circumstances.
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posted on
09/11/2002 7:27:20 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
To: Dimensio
Actually, All I want the teacher to do is teach my kids reading, writing, math, and geography.
Mrs. Jagdgewehr and I will take care of the rest.
To: Texas Eagle
There are three viable options to ensure that your child has a good education:
Homeschool, a good Private School, or a combination of Homeschooling/Private School.
THE EDUCATION PAGE
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posted on
09/11/2002 7:29:50 PM PDT
by
Cindy
To: Cindy
where was this teacher when i went through? i wouldnt have hated my highschool/middle school life nearly as much had i had a teacher that was willing to advocate morals and prayer. i would so recomend to you, as a teacher, to work at a respected private school.... pay tends to be better, more controlled environment, and it isnt public schools. glad to hear of a republican teacher out there.... dont know how to close this one
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posted on
09/11/2002 7:40:56 PM PDT
by
MacDorcha
To: MacDorcha
How do you know that the teacher didn't want to pray to Allah, whose Prophet was Mohammed (pbuh)?
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posted on
09/11/2002 7:52:44 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
To: Dimensio
because the only prayer the dems want to oust is Christian prayer. if she was muslim, i promise the libbies in the system would let it slide if she proclaimed a jihad in the classroom. she feels oppressed and singled out as a teacher. that means she isnt the norm. the norm is liberal, and the VAST majority of those who pray AND are conservative are of course Christian or Jewish.... either way, she sounds American and a fundamental one at that. the msg was on our side. im on her side.
To: Dimensio
Try to get the NEA rep in your building to defend your right to read the Bible during study hall. Now, the Koran, that's another matter.
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posted on
09/11/2002 8:09:14 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
To: Dimensio
How do you know that the teacher didn't want to pray to Allah, whose Prophet was Mohammed (pbuh)?
Oh get your head out of your ass already! Do you actually live under a rock?
Let's see the public schools teach diversity by reading from the Koran and dressing our children up like muslims, liberal colleges require that students read an edited version of the Koran? These very same schools suspend or expel christian children for writing/reading saying or doing anything related to the christian religion!
I think we've had enough of the half brained, numb nutz liberals like yourself. Either you're just playing ignorant or you are just plain stupid. Go back to the DU already!
To: Dimensio
I'm confused. Is the teacher asserting that there are people who are trying to prevent public school teachers from praying at all? I'm not aware of any major organizations advocating such an agenda.You've never heard of the ACLU?
To: RebelDawg
You seem to think that I'm advocating something. I'm not, and you're a presumptious twit for making that assumption. My question is serious. The article mentioned prayer, but it not mention prayer toward any specific god. I'm wondering why people responding positively to the article seem to assume that it would be the Christian God that the teacher speaks of, and I'm wondering what they would think of a teacher expressing similar sentiments to the Muslism's version of god.
As for expelling students for expressing Christian beliefs, you'll find such examples in very small numbers and I'm not aware of any case where a student whose rights were genuinely trampled did not prevail in the end, even if it required court action.
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posted on
09/11/2002 8:36:46 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
To: Texas Eagle
Can you cite a specific exmaple of the ACLU attempting to prevent a teacher from praying? (note, I'm referring to the opposition being to prayer itself, not an opposition to a teacher leading a class in prayer or something similar).
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posted on
09/11/2002 8:37:53 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
To: Dimensio
Oh, my. Are you new to this planet?
To: Dimensio
Why should a student's right have to be defended in the schools of a country where more than 80% of the people who, when they pray, pray to the Christian God? I invite yout to look at the back issues of the NEA Journal, and you will see that for years that NEA has been obsessed with the notion that Christian beliefs are essentially bigoted and that teachers have a positive duty to advocate the views of radical feminists and gays and, recently, Muslims.
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posted on
09/11/2002 8:53:05 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
To: Texas Eagle
The best person to care for a child in this way AND be able to pray is .... a parent.
HOMESCHOOL!!!!!
To: Texas Eagle
No, I'm not. Can you cite a single case?
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posted on
09/11/2002 9:15:51 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
To: RobbyS
Why should a student's right have to be defended in the schools of a country where more than 80% of the people who, when they pray, pray to the Christian God?
It shouldn't have to be defended. Unfortunately, sometimes it is necessary. When it has been necessary for them to defend their expression of religious beliefs, they have won.
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posted on
09/11/2002 9:16:32 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
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