To: Robert_Paulson2
pat is a well known and long term jew hater. He fairly seethes with it... he also has lots of fellow travelers.
What has Pat said that makes him a Jew hater? I love the Jewish people, and yet I like Pat Buchanan's viewpoints on most issues. I do, however, support Israel if another nation attacked. Yet, I agree with him that war right now, unprovoked, is a bad idea.
Can you provide an example of "hating the Jews", because if you have it, I'd like to see it.
To: FreedomFriend
Dont hold your breath waiting for facts from this crowd.
Anyone who doesn't toe the party line (ie, Israel First) will find themselves on the receivng end of a stream of vile diatribe. Anti-Semite, Arab-lover, Islamist, etc. Always with the personal attacks.
I myself am not Anti-Israel, I believe we have to defend them, but not at any expense. Their agenda and ours can't always be the same, although you'll find no end of those who believe that America must always serve Israel's interests first. What's worse is their vitriol for those who don't agree and their outrageous self-righteousness and hypocrasy.
Pat Buchanan is a prime example of what happens to those who don't go along. His views were much more inline with the constitution and traditional conservatism than Bob Dole's in 1996, but the long knives came out and slammed him to the mat with the most damnable propaganda.
I will not fight for Israel or the UN. Only America.
To: FreedomFriend
ON JEWS:
Buchanan referred to Capitol Hill as "Israeli-occupied territory." (St. Louis Post Dispatch, 10/20/90)
During the Gulf crisis: "There are only two groups that are beating the drums for war in the Middle East -- the Israeli defense ministry and its 'amen corner' in the United States." ("McLaughlin Group," 8/26/90)
In a 1977 column, Buchanan said that despite Hitler's anti-Semitic and genocidal tendencies, he was "an individual of great courage...Hitler's success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path." (The Guardian, 1/14/92)
Writing of "group fantasies of martyrdom," Buchanan challenged the historical record that thousands of Jews were gassed to death by diesel exhaust at Treblinka: "Diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide to kill anybody." (New Republic, 10/22/90) Buchanan's columns have run in the Liberty Lobby's Spotlight, the German-American National PAC newsletter
and other publications that claim Nazi death camps are a Zionist concoction.
Buchanan called for closing the U.S. Justice Department's Office of Special Investigations, which prosecuted Nazi war criminals, because it was "running down 70-year-old camp guards." (New York Times, 4/21/87)
Buchanan was vehement in pushing President Reagan -- despite protests -- to visit Germany's Bitburg cemetery, where Nazi SS troops were buried. At a White House meeting, Buchanan reportedly reminded Jewish leaders that they were "Americans first" -- and repeatedly scrawled the phrase
"Succumbing to the pressure of the Jews" in his notebook. Buchanan was credited with crafting Ronald Reagan's line that the SS troops buried at Bitburg were "victims just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps." (New York Times, 5/16/85; New Republic, 1/22/96)
After Cardinal O'Connor criticized anti-Semitism during the controversy over construction of a convent near Auschwitz, Buchanan wrote: "If U.S. Jewry takes the clucking appeasement of the Catholic cardinalate as indicative of our submission, it is mistaken. When Cardinal O'Connor of New York seeks to soothe the always irate Elie Wiesel by reassuring him 'there are many Catholics who are anti-Semitic'...he speaks for himself. Be not afraid, Your Eminence; just step aside, there are bishops and priests
ready to assume the role of defender of the faith." (New Republic,
10/22/90)
The Buchanan '96 campaign's World Wide Web site included an article blaming the death of White House aide Vincent Foster on the Israeli intelligence agency, Mossad -- and alleging that Foster and Hillary Clinton were Mossad spies. (The campaign removed the article after its existence was reported by a Jewish on-line news service; Jewish Telegraphic Agency, 2/21/96.)
to me, people who make such statements in writing repeatedly are antisemetic jew haters... there are so many quotes of Batty Pukaanan expressing vileness about jews, on the internet, cataloguing them would take weeks. YOu can choose your own bedfellows and fellow travellors... but Batty Pat, will be travelling without me, for I believe from what he says and what he has done... he is a hater of the jews...
You KNEW pat has said and done such things... and probably see nothing wrong with him, or them. Perhaps you are in agreement with him... Pat has a lot of fellow travelors in his entourage of anti semites. Follow him if you want. Count me out. He who hates the Jew is inviting the curse of God...
Like I said... you can and will make your own choices as to who your fellow travelers are in life. I choose to REJECT pat and his suaree of jew haters.
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