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The War Party's imperial plans
World Net Daily ^ | 9/11/2002 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 09/11/2002 3:32:38 PM PDT by traditionalist

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To: Willie Green
You mean where Congress once again abdicated it's Constitutional obligation to issue a formal decalaration of War???

It was a declaration of war. You just don't want to look at it like it is: a declaration of war. If it wasn't, then why give the Commander in Chief that power?

The War Powers Act gives the President the power to use the military for 90 days without Congressional approval. So if Bush does it in 90 days, what's the problem?

But like I said, like it or not, it's on.

181 posted on 09/12/2002 11:55:52 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: traditionalist
That resolution authorized the prez to go after the 9-11 perpetrators.

And those who harbor them.

182 posted on 09/12/2002 11:56:29 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: rdb3
It was a declaration of war.

Hogwash.
Congress hasn't issued a formal declaration of War in over 60 years.
Instead, they come up with political euphemisms from which they can later tap dance a retreat.
Wake-up. Congress is nothing but a bunch of gluttonous lawyers, unwilling to commit to principle for fear of disrupting their taxpayer funded feast.

183 posted on 09/12/2002 12:05:14 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: YoungKentuckyConservative
Reports about meetings between Atta and Iraqi agents were from unnamed sources, and later denied by the CIA. The reports of the parked Boeing 707 were given by the Iraqi National Congress, which has a vested interest in seeing Saddam ousted. Forgive me if I am skeptical.
184 posted on 09/12/2002 12:06:34 PM PDT by traditionalist
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To: rdb3
And from what public information is available, he is not harboring them. They are hiding in the Kurdish region, which he does not control. Why is this so hard for you to grasp?
185 posted on 09/12/2002 12:08:01 PM PDT by traditionalist
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To: Willie Green
Wake-up.

I'm wide awake, Willie.

Congress is nothing but a bunch of gluttonous lawyers, unwilling to commit to principle for fear of disrupting their taxpayer funded feast.

Then take your bitching to Congress, not President Bush.

186 posted on 09/12/2002 12:10:50 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: rdb3
Then take your bitching to Congress, not President Bush.

Both are fair game on the issue.

187 posted on 09/12/2002 12:13:01 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: traditionalist
Why is this so hard for you to grasp?

I'm having no problems whatsoever in "grasping" this. They're there. Iraq is Iraq.

Hussein apologist. My oh my.

Twofer. Got that?

So our troops arrive over there. Will you support them?

188 posted on 09/12/2002 12:16:15 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: traditionalist
Recall: After we crushed Germany and Japan in World War II, both were powerless to reassume their historic roles of containing Russia and China.

Gee, I guess that means the Soviet Union won the cold war, since our allies bailed on us.

There is, I believe, a difference between an agressive competetor and an insane one.

189 posted on 09/12/2002 12:16:50 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Willie Green
Both are fair game on the issue.

Do tell. Game recognizes game. Nice try though. Rather transparent, but decent effort.

190 posted on 09/12/2002 12:17:36 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: rdb3
Do tell. Game recognizes game. Nice try though. Rather transparent, but decent effort

We the People established a Government with three distinct branches: legislative, executive and judicial.
None of these three branches of governmental power is entitled to a free pass.
Your "game" of blame shifting IS recognized and duly noted.

191 posted on 09/12/2002 12:25:30 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: DrLiberty
So you would prefer that Saddam control Iraq's oil, Kuwait's oil, and Saudi Arabia's oil. Boy what a foreign policy genius.

BTW Iraq never existed until the Brits created it from nothing. So spare me the pseudo-history.

Buchanan is a bozo and of little political value.
192 posted on 09/12/2002 12:26:51 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: Willie Green
Your "game" of blame shifting IS recognized and duly noted.

You're a damned lie. I shifted nothing.

Game recognizes game. You need to work on it a bit, however.

193 posted on 09/12/2002 12:27:56 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: DrLiberty
Oh yeah, it was vital that we save the undemocratic Al-Sabah family installed by the British 80 years ago by stealing land from Iraq (had always been part of Iraq)to "create" a new country called Kuwait.

Iraq was a creation of the Versailles Treaty. Seems that the Sublime Porte in Constantinople bet on the wrong horse in 1914.

By your statement, Turkey has a 100% enforceable claim on all of Iraq, Kuwait, and most of Saudi Arabia.

194 posted on 09/12/2002 12:30:39 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: traditionalist
I agree with Pat's logic.

I'm not sure I agree that this is a bad thing......

It will cost hundreds of billions and probably many lives.

Is it worth it?

195 posted on 09/12/2002 12:30:57 PM PDT by WhiteGuy
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To: rdb3
That resolution authorized the prez to go after the 9-11
perpetrators.

And those who harbor them.

Like the University of South Florida? I see more confirmable evidence against USF than Iraq. I don't cry for Sadam but I still say the evidence is very very thin.
196 posted on 09/12/2002 12:33:08 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: The Toll
I see more confirmable evidence against USF than Iraq. I don't cry for Sadam but I still say the evidence is very very thin.

Okay. Thanx for playing.

Let's roll.

197 posted on 09/12/2002 12:33:58 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: WhiteGuy
It will cost hundreds of billions and probably many lives.

Yes.

Is it worth it?

History shows that the price tag of doing nothing will be even higher.

198 posted on 09/12/2002 12:34:04 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: traditionalist
Forgive me if I am skeptical.

No problem. I question every source and its reletive validity, even that of the CIA. =)

200 posted on 09/12/2002 12:40:07 PM PDT by YoungKentuckyConservative
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