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September 11 2002 | Shaggy Eel

Posted on 09/10/2002 12:59:02 PM PDT by shaggy eel

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To: dorben
I was up before first light this morning after working on both my paid job and my second "filibustering" one into the late hours of yesterday evening. I might write things describing the consequences of failure to win the war, however please do not make assumptions about my own personal level of action. Let's just say that if the Axis knew who I was, I'd be shot today.
101 posted on 09/11/2002 9:40:32 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD
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To: belmont_mark
Looks like I could bone up on the way I come across Mark . I was not questioning you or the activities you labor in , and by all means stay stealth from the Axis . They are a nasty lot .
102 posted on 09/11/2002 10:37:36 AM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: stanz
,,, thanx for those words Stanz. September 11 for me was another day in the office but a special one for me on FreeRepublic. Looking over some of the comments on this thread that were placed as I was fast asleep, some may be concerned that America's identity may be represented as grief. Although that's a fair comment to a point, they have to commit to cogniscence the fact that this is the biggest act of aggression to hit America since Pearl Harbour - and it's only one year since it happened. Laz has voiced those sentiments here and his rationale is something I identify with totally.

Hope all is OK for you in NYC.

103 posted on 09/11/2002 1:40:39 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Lazamataz
I do believe better times are ahead.

BTTT.

104 posted on 09/11/2002 1:43:25 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: belmont_mark
Let's just say that if the Axis knew who I was, I'd be shot today.

DICK CHENEY! Pleasure to meet you, sir!

105 posted on 09/11/2002 2:52:43 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: shaggy eel
Bump! And thanks down there.
106 posted on 09/11/2002 3:15:26 PM PDT by dead
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To: Illbay
Don't be such a jerk.
107 posted on 09/11/2002 3:17:26 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Calvert Cliffs Cafe
,,, photos
108 posted on 09/11/2002 3:43:57 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
Today in Parliament I delivered the following speech in recognition of September 11th, and the impact it has had around the world. It isn’t a long speech – 600 words – but it sums up my feelings.

This day one year ago our time stood suspended.

Our morning of September 12 became the world over September 11, New York time.

We were witnesses to thousands of deaths from a thousand angles as the towers crashed again and again and again.

What we could clearly see we could not dare to believe. In the night-time of their fears, no one who lives as we do could have feared this.

Stories emerged then and still do now where fragments of strangers’ lives are woven in with ours in a patchwork quilt of courage and catastrophe.

Firemen mourning missing comrades;

Medics waiting for casualties who never came;

Mothers whose babies will never know their fathers;

And the cellphone calls of people who could see their coming death.

We were witnesses to all this and that is why today our hearts go out to the American people, and people all around the world as they remember the thousands who died and the millions who had their lives changed forever.

Our hearts go out to the families who lost loved ones – American families and families around the globe. Even New Zealand did not go untouched by this barbaric attack. Today we remember and honour Alan Beaven and John Lozowsy as the two New Zealanders who lost their lives in 9/11.

We recognise September 11 first out of basic human empathy for a disaster so shockingly unexpected. The people involved lived like us and so the grief and loss weighs more heavily.

And we recognise September 11 out of what is best in us. Our loyalty, our generosity, our resolve, compel us to stand with those who build on the same bedrock of civil life - the rule of law, respect for human rights, and freedom bounded by morality.

It is a constant temptation to stand apart from the arguments of history, but it is through these national virtues of ours that Sept 11 has drawn New Zealand in once again. As recently as one year and one day ago we thought it might be different.

In the Cold War, fear of communism was hard wired into the fabric of our nation and its relationships with the world. The struggle still defines our generations because it was played out on our streets.

As the memory of Vietnam faded and then the Berlin Wall came down, we had a decade where we might have been convinced that prosperity and liberal democracy were the inevitable results of progress – it was all good and it came easily.

September 11, 2001 changed that – we are back in history with its tragedies and failures, and dilemmas that test our judgment and our national character.

We now face the question of how best we can exercise our judgement and our good character in this changed world.

At best we may be heard through the multilateral process – our judgement formed and lost in a web of anonymous international diplomacy, which hides principle behind its process.

People don’t live or die for such abstractions.

We can be heard much better by our friends and allies by standing with them in a harder clearer light that does more justice to our conscience.

What should we say to our friend the US as it remembers its grief tomorrow?

We acknowledge that September 11 was sufficiently terrible to change how they think about their country.

We remind our friends that they exercise what Fukuyama calls “an enormous margin of power”.

We accept that against such irrational and arbitrary acts there is little defence and that pre-emption is legitimate. But we expect to know the threats, the methods and above all the limits of this doctrine.

Today we recognise the loss we share, the way of life we have protected and defended together and the determination to ensure such a tragedy does not occur again.

-Hon Bill English, Leader of the opposition [National Party]

September 11th 2002

109 posted on 09/11/2002 5:08:10 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: bvw; Illbay
You are not alone BUMP
110 posted on 09/11/2002 8:06:47 PM PDT by wcbtinman
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