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Bush exhibiting leadership while the 'world' plays 'wait and see' games
Jewish World Review ^ | Sept. 9, 2002 /\ | Ranan R. Lurie

Posted on 09/09/2002 5:26:51 AM PDT by SJackson

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1 posted on 09/09/2002 5:26:51 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
..Bush exhibiting leadership while the 'world' plays 'wait and see' games...

How outrageous, that the world wants to see some actual evidence, before signing on for a war.

2 posted on 09/09/2002 5:49:39 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Byron_the_Aussie; kayak
With a tip of my hat to kayak for posting this on another thread:

Byron...some allies just can't read, listen, or see. Either that, or they are holding out for additional foreign aid and/or a guarantee that THEIR oil source won't be interrupted.

Shame on them!

4 posted on 09/09/2002 6:35:24 AM PDT by justshe
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To: justshe
Thanks for flagging me to this article ...... but I don't deserve credit for the cartoon since I "borrowed" it from another thread. I don't know who first found it but I've seen it several times. It is quite appropriate for this thread so I'm glad you brought it over here ....... :-)
5 posted on 09/09/2002 6:52:57 AM PDT by kayak
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To: justshe
..Byron...some allies just can't read, listen, or see...

Maybe, but don't count me in with that rabble. I know I'm sounding like a broken record, but I'll say it for the umpteenth time :

Where is Bin Laden?

Does no-one care? Or, just how short can a collective memory span be? Osama's down the Tora Bora memory hole, and Saddam's the new bogeyman of the week. Incredible. This Administration, colluding with the media, steering the American people the way you do, when you draw a woollen thread in front of a kitten. Milking 911 for emotibucks, the way they did with Diana, or JFK Jnr. And me, roaming the threads like a downunder Diogenes, trying to find a Freeper honest enough to say, 'I'm mad as hell, and I won't be manipulated any more!'

Some say it via Freepmail, for which I'm grateful.

6 posted on 09/09/2002 6:58:45 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: TonyRo76
..as Bush said, we owe it to future generations...

Tony, I'll tell you what you owe to future generations:

protecting the shining jewel that makes it all possible, the US Constitution.

Not throwing away your freedoms, and wrapping yourself in the putrid security blanket of More Government. Not suspending disbelief, and opening wide for every lie, that comes down the pike from DC. And not cheering for an attack on a tinpot dictatorship, an attack produced and directed by cynical opportunists, so arrogant and so contemptuous of the American publics' critical faculties that they can't be bothered to present any but the most spurious 'reasons.'

7 posted on 09/09/2002 7:08:11 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
You know I basically agree with you. This whole thing is being timed around elections for the most benefit. If we really believe that Iraq played a part in 9-11.... then Baghdad and Saddam's palaces should be Nuclear wasteland by now. We should have presented the evidence... and we should have blasted the guy and all those that put up with him off the face of the earth.

Instead we're going to milk this thing for political bucks, test a bunch of new expensive weapons, and end up with a new Iraqi government that is marginably better than the current one. That is what I don't like about the deal.

8 posted on 09/09/2002 7:17:13 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: justshe
As Howard Hughes once said, "Everyone has their price."
9 posted on 09/09/2002 7:27:41 AM PDT by oyez
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To: kjam22
Or perhaps it's the media who are milking this thing for bucks.

The President hasn't talked about attacking Iraq ..... he has mentioned regime change. But the media have been playing up the talk of war for months.

I don't understand why so many people are so bent out of joint over our going to war with no proof when the only talk of battle, invasion, etc. has come from the media.

If we end up with troops in Iraq with no explanation, then there will be plenty of cause for concern ...... but so far we only have hype from the media and the talking heads and so-called "experts" .......

I have confidence that the President will inform the American public .... and the world .... before taking action.

10 posted on 09/09/2002 7:32:55 AM PDT by kayak
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To: kayak
I have confidence that the President will inform the American public .... and the world .... before taking action.

I completely agree with this. My problem is that 1) I'm not going to agree with the action. And 2) I'm pretty suspicious of the timing of the thing.

I do not favor a deal where we run Saddam out and let a marginally better leadership take control. Look at Afghanistan.... have we left it in good shape?

11 posted on 09/09/2002 7:39:47 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Byron.. Then you just carry on with your rant. And keep looking for essays or columns that support President GW Bush and his administration so you can use them for a springboard for your view of:

short collective memory span

This Administration, colluding with the media, steering the American people

milking 911 for emotibucks the way they did with Diana, or JFK Jnr. trying to find a Freeper honest enough to say, 'I'm mad as hell, and I won't be manipulated any more!'

Some say it via Freepmail, for which I'm grateful.(unsure what THIS indicates, except for they don't have the courage of their convictions to speak in open forum)

wrapping yourself in the putrid security blanket of More Government

Not suspending disbelief and opening wide for every lie, that comes down the pike from DC.

not cheering for an attack on a tinpot dictatorship

cynical opportunists, so arrogant and so contemptuous of the American publics' critical faculties that they can't be bothered to present any but the most spurious 'reasons.

I wish you well in your quest. Apparently you REALLY go out of your way to start threads simply to Bash-Bush.

Now I know. And I won't support or play your game again.

12 posted on 09/09/2002 7:41:02 AM PDT by justshe
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To: kjam22
Look at Afghanistan.... have we left it in good shape?

They knowingly harbored terrorists that killed 3,000 of our people.

Maybe we should build them houses and shopping malls or something.

They lived in the dirt before we got there, they live in the dirt still. The fact that we left most of them alive was rather forgiving of us, I’d say.

13 posted on 09/09/2002 7:51:05 AM PDT by dead
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To: justshe
Hear, hear.

The springboard lost an incredible amount of bounce with the "colluding with the media" comment. The majority of the American media is presenting the democrat's agenda as fact, borders on teasonous in their publication of war plans (true or fictitious), and openly trashes the President at every opportunity.
14 posted on 09/09/2002 7:54:24 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: dead
I don't think we should have built them shopping malls. I think it should be an american colony right now... being run by american's. I don't like the idea where we let the warring tribes take over.... because in a few years the stronger of those will prevail and they hate us too.
15 posted on 09/09/2002 7:54:40 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: justshe
...apparently you REALLY go out of your way to start threads simply to Bash-Bush...

I've never done anything of the sort, and neither you nor anyone else could produce a single example of that. Matter of fact I had very high hopes for this president, and for months was in denial about his real agenda for America.

16 posted on 09/09/2002 7:55:49 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Quilla
...the majority of the American media is presenting the democrat's agenda as fact, borders on teasonous in their publication of war plans (true or fictitious), and openly trashes the President at every opportunity....

Pigeon pucks.

Go read today's selection, from the panel to the right. Start with any front page from the New York Post.

War sells news, Quilla.

18 posted on 09/09/2002 8:02:04 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: kjam22
I don't think we should have built them shopping malls. I think it should be an american colony right now... being run by american's.

Running a perpetual police state on the other side of the world might sound like a good idea, but it would cost us many many billions of dollars and likely the lives of thousands of US soldiers. It’s not in our best interests.

I don't like the idea where we let the warring tribes take over.... because in a few years the stronger of those will prevail and they hate us too.

Then we blow them up again, and keep doing it, until they get it right. That’s the cheaper, and likely more effective, method.

20 posted on 09/09/2002 8:02:08 AM PDT by dead
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