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To: Fzob
>>The socialist were a real problem in Lenin's eyes. It seems that Lenin's view of "practical" communism required skipping the socialism phase<<

Not at all.

Lenin simply said the truth-the people would never, never adopt socialism of their own free will, and that furthermore, once socialism was put in place by revolution, the people would work ceaselessly to undermine it.

Therefore, Lenin reasoned (correctly, see "What is to Be Done?") that Red terror before, during, and after the revolution would be required to whip the people along, to get them to act against their will, against their culture, against their religion, and against human nature.

Comunists are socialists who mean it.

78 posted on 09/07/2002 11:29:12 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble
Therefore, Lenin reasoned (correctly, see "What is to Be Done?") that Red terror before, during, and after the revolution would be required to whip the people along, to get them to act against their will, against their culture, against their religion, and against human nature.

I wholeheartedly agree, My use of the term "practical" Communism was just a very abridged (and inexact) form of what you said.

86 posted on 09/07/2002 3:56:28 PM PDT by Fzob
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To: Jim Noble
Comunists are socialists who mean it.

My favorite defintion is:

A Communist is a Socialist with *your* gun.

89 posted on 09/07/2002 4:42:58 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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