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To: zapiks44
Let me add, though, to jump to Waterloo and miss 1798 to 1807, when French armies (after 1800, under Napoleon) utterly obliterated the rest of Europe's finest, is simply silly. This was a French army ALWAYS outnumbered (often 2:1 or 3:1) that force an entire Austrian army of 100,000 to surrender without a shot, they had been so badly beaten; and a French army that defeated two major enemies in two different battles at the same time (Jena/Auerstadt). Even Waterloo was a close thing, and a few minor changes in events would have left Napoleon the winner there, too.

Also, it is simply off to say that Martel defeated a "raiding party." He completely stopped Muslim expansion, because they had no answer for his massed infantry (the "wall of steel") or his stirruped-cavalry.

24 posted on 09/06/2002 6:03:45 PM PDT by LS
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To: LS
"Let me add, though, to jump to Waterloo and miss 1798 to 1807, when French armies (after 1800, under Napoleon) utterly obliterated the rest of Europe's finest, is simply silly."

Yes, this was the great period of glory for France. So much of the monumental aspect of Paris is centered on monuments to this period. It lasted about as long as the expansion period of the Third Reich.

83 posted on 09/07/2002 9:00:00 PM PDT by rimmont
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