[WindMinstrel]

Christians can disagree about the morality of getting intoxicated, but let's stipulate that it is indeed sinful. I would argue that that's immaterial, though, and Jesus woulnd't push for making sin illegal. It already is illegal -- in ways much more important that mere laws.

[gdani]

Christians can disagree about the morality of getting intoxicated, but let's stipulate that it is indeed sinful.

I'm not trying to be a wise guy or add another issue, but how exactly does one who believes that intoxication is a sin reconcile that with Jesus turning water into wine?

[Dakmar]

Exactly - those who don't sin simply because they are stopped from sinning by force are no more moral than sinners.

"If a man cannot choose, he ceases to be a man."

- Anthony Burgess