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| 9/5/2002
Posted on 09/06/2002 8:59:47 AM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: gdani
I'm not quite sure, really -- I'm not big on teatotalling Christianity. I was just suggesting that we stipulate it for now to keep the discussion uncluttered.
To: Willie Green
How is engaging in trivial debate of an arcane topic a productive use of my time? Uh, if it's not a productive use of your time you could always simply stop posting to this thread.
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posted on
09/06/2002 12:52:13 PM PDT
by
gdani
To: Willie Green
How is engaging in trivial debate of an arcane topic a productive use of my time? Get the issue before SCOTUS and I may have more to say on the matter. Our drug laws have been challenged tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of times in court. I see no need to alter or change them, only a greater committment to enforcement and prosecution.
That's a lot of wasted type to say "I can't."
To: WindMinstrel
Exactly - those who don't sin simply because they are stopped from sinning by force are no more moral than sinners.
"If a man cannot choose, he ceases to be a man."
- Anthony Burgess
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posted on
09/06/2002 12:52:51 PM PDT
by
Dakmar
To: Willie Green
How is engaging in trivial debate of an arcane topic a productive use of my time?The subterfuge by which the feds have unconstitutionally grabbed near-limitless power over us is "an arcane topic"?!
Our drug laws have been challenged tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of times in court.
Cite a single court ruling that states that federal drug laws are consistent with the Ninth and Tenth Amendments. Then explain why we should give that any weight, considering that upholding the Ninth and Tenth Amendments would collapse the welfare state that the liberal-dominated judiciary loves so much.
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posted on
09/06/2002 12:55:42 PM PDT
by
MrLeRoy
To: MrLeRoy
It's about this time that even stalwarts like Roscoe cut and run . . .
To: Hemingway's Ghost; gdani
Uh, if it's not a productive use of your time you could always simply stop posting to this thread.
That's a lot of wasted type to say "I can't." The correct interpretation is that "I won't" waste my time on such diversions.
It's much more productive simply stating my opinion as to how enforcement should be intensified.
To: Dead Corpse
Galatians...chapter 5
13] For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
[14] For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[15] But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
[16] This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
[17] For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
[18] But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
[19] Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
[20] Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
[21] Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
[22] But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
[23] Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
[24] And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
[25] If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
[26] Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
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Gal.6
[1] Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
[2] Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
To: MrLeRoy
Cite a single court ruling that states that federal drug laws are consistent with the Ninth and Tenth Amendments.Cite where SCOTUS has ruled all our drug laws are unconstitutional on these grounds.
To: f.Christian
Any sins would be between the sinner and God. They are no business of yours. According to your own Bible, no man is fit to judge another. You least of all with your lies and hypocracies.
To: MEGoody
2 questions for you.
1. Would you rather have potheads or child-molesters in prison?
2. Who owns my body (and I never have used pot or other illicit substances and won't, even WHEN they are re-legalized)? You and FedGov or ME?
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posted on
09/06/2002 1:06:46 PM PDT
by
dcwusmc
To: Willie Green
It's much more productive simply stating my opinion as to how enforcement should be intensified.
That's great. So you won't mind when I brand you a New Dealer, right?
To: Dead Corpse
God created you...all of us---to be ignorameouses?
To: Willie Green
You made the assertion that the SCOTUS has already ruled them Constitutional. It is up to you to provide the evidence.
Where did you learn to debate? The Clinton School of Public Speaking?
To: Destructor
I'd go one-on-one with you but I can't keep a straight face that long. Sorry. You're well named. Your silliness is totally destructive of my funnybone. I have to bypass your comments most times so I don't show TOO much disrespect by laughing at you.
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posted on
09/06/2002 1:09:29 PM PDT
by
dcwusmc
To: MrLeRoy
Let's get Saddam first before we start debating anything else.
If we don't get Saddam, and soon, then all other debates are meaningless. America may no longer be here.
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posted on
09/06/2002 1:10:28 PM PDT
by
joyful1
To: Dead Corpse
Main Entry: ig·no·ra·mus
Pronunciation: "ig-n&-'rA-m&s also -'ra-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -mus·es also ig·no·ra·mi /-mE/
Etymology: Ignoramus, ignorant lawyer in Ignoramus (1615), play by George Ruggle, from Latin, literally, we are ignorant of
Date: circa 1616
: an utterly ignorant person : DUNCE
To: Willie Green
It's much more productive simply stating my opinion as to how enforcement should be intensified.How is that "productive" when you can't even make a case that the laws should exist?
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posted on
09/06/2002 1:10:58 PM PDT
by
MrLeRoy
To: f.Christian
No, God created us in His image to follow Him. Following Him, however, does not give us the right to force others to follow Him. Christians aren't supposed to practice baptism by the sword.
You don't really think that God is pleased if a non-christian gives up a sin, do you? Of what value is it if someone stops sinning but doesn't know Christ?
Jesus didn't call us to be moralizers, he called us to live moral lives ourselves.
To: f.Christian
Considering I don't believe in your version of God in the first place, I would have to say my parents are the most likely candidate for being "my creator". The evidence really stacks up in their favor.
Staying within your theology though, God created us and gave us free will. Hypocrits like you would remove that gift from God by making all of those moral choices for us. Be they right or wrong, they are still our choices to make. the consequences of such actions are also ours alone to bear.
In the real world, "the Devil made me do it" is not a valid defense.
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