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To: hoosierskypilot
Fact: When our founding fathers decided to organize our government, they did it based upon Biblical principles.

Interesting. Seems to me that in the Bible, all the governments cited are kingdoms. Even though Greek city-states had existed for some time before the New Testament was written, democracy is not referenced. Jesus commanded his followers to be "in the world, but not of it", and also told them to "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and unto God that which is God's". Jesus didn't put forward a plan for man's governing, because he didn't care. He was concerned about the kingdom of God, which as you may note isn't a democracy.

Which is not to say that the morals in the Bible don't form an excellent basis for organizing a civic body. But there's a reason why Jesus isn't mentioned anywhere in our nation's founding documents, and why an explicit blockage of any religious test for holding Federal office is.

88 posted on 09/07/2002 10:00:32 PM PDT by RonF
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To: RonF
"...there's a reason why Jesus isn't mentioned anywhere in our nation's founding documents, and why an explicit blockage of any religious test for holding Federal office is."

I'm not sure I understand where you're going with that. Yes, government in the Bible was monarchical. No, democracy is not espoused in the Bible, although, Tiberius, who was emporer in Bible times, said, "Vox populi, Vox Dei", which is to say, "The voice of the people is the voice of God." (100 B.C.) But, Tiberius certainly didn't believe in democracy.

Your last statement about federal officials is confusing.
Government officials in America were required to declare their belief in God before they could hold a public office until a case in the U.S. Supreme Court called Torcaso v. Watkins (Oct. 1960). This was about the same time frame as other landmark decisions that I believe spelled the beginning of the end of America as we knew it, viz., the abolition of prayer in public schools.
94 posted on 09/07/2002 11:21:16 PM PDT by hoosierskypilot
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