[Lord_Baltar]

You know, it's funny Copy, you seem to imply that making light of anything regarding all this somehow equates to being Pro-Saddam.

However, it has been brought up, here in fact, that don't you think if Saddam Hussein was indeed directly involved with OKC, might not McVeigh or Terry Nichols maybe would have mentioned this somewhere along the way?

I mean seriously, don't you think ol' Timmy would have dropped a dime on Saddam, prior to being given his injection? Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that Terry might be willing to point a finger or two at Saddam, just to lighten his sentence, just a wee bit?

Yet, both have denied any connection by Saddam Hussein to OKC.

I know for some of you, the idea of anything contradicting anything that comes out of our Government is akin to blasphemy.

However, the vein of my post was sarcasm and humor. If someone has a hard time discerning that (ie The iceberg reference) I apologize for shaking their delicate views.

[Cobra Scott]

Can you give me your perspective on something? If McVeigh was a "lone bomber", why was Nichols also convicted? And why only Nichols? This sticks out as a problem for me.

[FAXGRAM]

"I mean seriously, don't you think ol' Timmy would have dropped a dime on Saddam, prior to being given his injection? Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that Terry might be willing to point a finger or two at Saddam, just to lighten his sentence, just a wee bit?"

If McVeigh or Nichols knew that everyone they love would be placed at high risk if they talked, their silence is understandable.

[copycat]

However, it has been brought up, here in fact, that don't you think if Saddam Hussein was indeed directly involved with OKC, might not McVeigh or Terry Nichols maybe would have mentioned this somewhere along the way?

Arguing the negative? I'm not buying it.

Perhaps their families have been threatened. Perhaps monies promised to their heirs was contingent upon silence. Perhaps, as was ALSO mentioned on this thread, they truly identify with the anti-American cause.

The article stands intact. Steven Jones claims there are "others unknown" as do the official court documents. That's a lot more powerful than anything you've raised.

[js1138]

Can you tell me why someone who would murder hundreds of people would be tempted to betray his co-conspirators? The only reasonable motive for the bombing would be to split Americans along factional lines. Having accomplished that, why would you blow the deal by admitting there was a foreign motive.

I have no firm beliefs about Oklahoma, but I suspect there was outside technical help.

[The Person]

Actually, the lawyers for McVeigh and Nichols thought there might be a connection with Iraq. McVeigh and Nichols didn't want to be traitors--just "patriotic" mass murders!!!???

So why, as Paul Wolfowitz revealed last year, did McVeigh have Iraqi phone numbers on his person when arrested? How many American lowlifes with no relatives in the Middle East call Iraq?

[The Person]

This from an earlier thread in December 2001:

Timothy McVeigh's chief defense counsel for the murder trial, Stephen Jones, on behalf of McVeigh, filed an extra-ordinary petition in the next higher court, just prior to the murder trial. To no avail, Jones tried to force Denver U.S. District Judge Richard Matsch to compel the American CIA to disgorge records held by them showing prior U.S. knowledge of the bombing, as confirmed by other known records, some of them also in secret court records. We have a copy of the 185 page U.S. Court of Appeals, 10th Circuit, petition filed by Jones and almost uniformly ignored by the American monopoly press. The petition raises the Iraqi connection.]"