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To: ladyinred; dead; Jim Robinson; tpaine; B. A. Conservative; Tauzero; OWK; paulklenk; Twodees; ...
To: dead
Ridiculous liberal rant/lies/read/propaganda.

# 160 by ladyinred
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When liberals tell the truth, you should not deny the truth because you heard it from a liberal. The truth is the truth, ladyinred.

The Partiot Act will be the end of our free society if it is allowed to stand.

Republicans, led by Ashcroft and Bush, are the ones who imposed the Patriot Act on us.


The Patriot Act allows :

1) physical searches without a warrant
2) wiretaps of telephones without a warrant
3) surveillance of internet activity without a warrant
4) Grand Jury information to be shared among government and foreign agencies
5) information on citizens to be shared among government and foreign agencies
6) DNA markers to be taken from anyone accused of committing or considering a violent act
7) full access to our financial and banking records.
8) full access to our educational records

"Violence" has been re-defined as any act that uses, attempts to use, threatens to use, or has the potential of becoming violent.

"Terrorism" has been re-defined to mean any act of violence, any intention to commit violence, any activity that would threaten or coerce others to change their activities, any intention to threaten or coerce others to change their activities, any crime committed with the use of a computer, any racketeering activity, and any act that interferes with interstate or international commerce.

Since local and state commerce are already known to be defined as "interstate" by the federal government because of the drug "war," any crime that effects commerce is terrorism.

Any crime, no matter how simple, can now be defined as terrorism, so the special laws enacted against terrorists apply to any crime. Thus, a man who defrauds his company is a terrorist.

A protester outside of an abortion clinic is a terrorist, guilty of the crime of intimidating, or trying to intimidate, people into changing their behavior. A pimp with his stable of women is a racketeer, involved in illegal business activities, and so too is classified as a terrorist.

A drug dealer is also involved in illegal business, as is his customer, who at the least is guilty of aiding terrorism through buying the illegal product of the drug dealer. The television commercials aren't just advertising. Drug buyers are now legally defined as terrorist supporters under the Patriot act.

Any terrorist, or supporter of terrorism, is subject to secret arrest, without a trial, without a lawyer, and without even notifying his family. Any person arrested under the terrorism statutes can be held indefinitely, without charges ever being filed.

In addition, the Patriot Act provides for sharing all law enforcement data among Federal, State, and Local police, and for co-ordination of response to any act of terrorism.

The Patriot Act creates to a Federal police force, with Local and State branches. It is a police force with the power to investigate crime both inside and outside the country, and unlimited access to all of our public and private information. It is a police force that doesn't have to explain it's actions.


Here's some quotes from the Patriot act :

"...Coordination of Federal, State, and local terrorism research, preparedness, and response programs must be improved..."

"...Private business, government, and the national security apparatus increasingly depend on an interdependent network of critical physical and information infrastructures, including telecommunications, energy, financial services, water, and transportation sectors..."

"...The support provided under paragraph (1) shall include the following :

"...(B) Acquisition from State and local governments and the private sector of data necessary to create and maintain models of such systems and of critical infrastructures generally..."

203 posted on 09/06/2002 7:11:51 PM PDT by exodus
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To: exodus
Republicans, led by Ashcroft and Bush, are the ones who imposed the Patriot Act on us.

They are Republicrats.

The 'Patriot Act' was developed prior to 9/11. The political class views the Constitution only as an obstruction, not the law of the land.

204 posted on 09/06/2002 7:17:52 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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To: exodus
The content of the post is essentially correct. The licensing of the government in this case can be used to impose more Wacos as well as pressure Muslim terrorists. More Wacos is what I see eventually evolving from this.
205 posted on 09/06/2002 7:18:21 PM PDT by RLK
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To: exodus
Thanks for the ping!!
214 posted on 09/06/2002 8:49:43 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: exodus
Thanks for the ping, exodus, and for your The Patriot Act will be the end of our free society if it is allowed to stand.
219 posted on 09/07/2002 5:50:55 PM PDT by joanie-f
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