Posted on 09/04/2002 12:22:02 PM PDT by dead
Can you clarify that statement for me?
I'm a little unclear on how the precedent that resulted in the emancipation resulted in a loss of liberty for everyone.
You won't demand that he explicity state the charges. Or the evidence. Or even the suspicions.
And that will somehow make you feel safer.
It's works for you, I guess, but it's not for me and it's not constitutional.
While The Village Voice is notoriously leftist editorially, just because they publish a cartoon or column does not necessarily mean they subscribe to the views presented. That's the case with any newspaper. The views belong to the artist, period.
You bet that during a war against terrorism I believe precautions must be taken that are offensive. To assume that anyone can be fingered is ridiculous. Just as it is ridiculous to avoid true PROFILING at our airports. Do I think Arab people, even if citizens, should be given and extra LOOKSEE at airports? Yes. I do. Do you?
He meant to say that the actions that emancipated a work force of millions increased the liberty of everyone in the country, because enslaving millions of people sets a bad precedent, because no one can consider himself fully free, while enslaving his fellows.
I'm sure thats what he meant to say.
Damn right!
Do I think Arab people, even if citizens, should be given and extra LOOKSEE at airports? Yes. I do. Do you?
Yes.
That has nothing at all to do with locking US citizens up for the rest of their lives without evidence or charges.
You make no sense whatsoever.
Simple solution for all those soooo concerned: Don't get classified as an enemy combatant. No on I know has anything to worry about.
You’re such a deep thinker.
Second, the fourteenth amendment was ratified under duress.
Article. XIV.
[Proposed 1866; Ratified Under Duress 1868]
Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Section. 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
Section. 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Section. 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
Section. 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
interpret for yourself
Today's Democrats are in no way even close to being classical liberals. To be honest, a classical liberal is today's conservative.
I get it and I am furious that it takes someone from the left to point it out.
Why did we fight so against Clinton ignoring the Constitution but it is A-OK when the Republicans do it?
I hope that comment was made in jest.
Section. 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.If any sort of claims based on slavery are tied to the Civil War, you're left with a complete elimination of any basis for paying out anything to anyone, period. Kind of makes you go hmmmmmmmm....
Are you saying what I think you're saying? I just want to be certain. I don't want to falsely accuse anyone.
You have my condolences, and I really hope that your doctor was mistaken when he told you that you wouldn't live to see the next election.
Oh, yeah. This reminds me. Who fired the first shot?
But it's all conjecture. I could have sworn that when I looked at the calendar this morning that it said
2 0 0 2
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