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Japanese banks scare rocks Nikkei (THERE MAY BE TROUBLE AHEAD...)
The Daily Telegraph ^ | September 4, 2002 | George Trefgarne and Colin Joyce

Posted on 09/03/2002 10:24:18 PM PDT by MadIvan

The Nikkei index of leading shares in Japan slumped to its lowest level for 18 years yesterday as concerns over the health of Japanese banks echoed round the world financial system.

With the anniversary of September 11 coming up next week and diplomatic rhetoric flying between the West and Iraq, investors are naturally nervous. Shockwaves from Japan were felt in London, where the FTSE 100 index lost 152.3 points to close at 4,028.6.

Wall Street also dropped as a survey of purchasing managers showed that US manufacturers are only just recovering. The Institute of Supply Management said its index for August was 50.5, unchanged on July and a point lower than hoped for by analysts. The Dow Jones index finished down 355 points at 8,308.

The dollar also fell sharply, as funds flooded into the euro and the pound. This allowed the euro to strengthen by over a cent to near parity with the dollar, closing at $0.9966. The pound also gained over a cent, closing at $1.5635.

But it was Japan that held centre-stage as the Nikkei index closed down 304.59 at 9,217.04, a level not seen since 1984. Japanese government bonds - the world's largest market as Japan borrows heavily - fell slightly to yield 1.18pc.

Deflation is persistent, industrial production is down and market sentiment in Tokyo has also been damaged by corporate scandals. This week, executives of Tokyo Electric Power were forced to resign after it emerged that the company had falsified safety data at its nuclear power reactors.

Mitsui, Japan's second largest trading company, is under investigation for bribing a Mongolian official. The food industry has also been hit by scandals.

Business reporters on Japanese television yesterday reflected that they were at junior high school when the Nikkei was last so low. The biggest fallers were Japanese banks, which are labouring under huge bad debts. Already, the government has said it will not guarantee deposits worth more than £75,000, but this ceiling will be lowered further next March.

The governor of Tokyo district spread alarm about the banks by saying yesterday he could move the capital city's £10 billion municipal cash balances out of the biggest Japanese bank, Mizuho Holdings, and deposit them at the US giant Citibank.

Mizuho shares fell 10pc as governor Shintaro Ishihara said a probe he had orderered suggested regulators are "hiding" problems in the banking system.

Mr Ishihara said the situation in Mizuho must improve. "If the conditions are good, we will do business with anybody, including foreign banks," he said. "Citibank has the best record here in Japan, so it could be one of the candidates."

Japan has been close to recession for the best part of a decade and the Tokyo market has been buffeted by bad news in the last few days. Last week, official estimates of first-quarter economic growth were revised down from 1.4pc to zero.

Robert Brooke, of Brooke Research Institute, said: "I think what Ishihara said is worrying because it shows that a Japanese official thinks the banking system isn't robust. The world has given up on Japan but every now and then investors are forced to sit up and take notice.

"Japan is the world's largest saver and supplier of capital. If your banker goes bust, you have to worry."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: nikkei; plunge; stocks
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To: hove
They had the apple in their hand and kept calling it a pear. Like we had a diamond and ended up with Klintoon and two diamonique earrings. When Japan's economy and banks falter this time, we won't just catch a cold, we'll have the flu or worse.
21 posted on 09/03/2002 10:50:37 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
Of course it scares me. Why do you think I used that term ?

I don't " look to Wall St. " ... I , unfortunately depend on it ; in a way. :-(

22 posted on 09/03/2002 10:51:57 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
They had the apple in their hand and kept calling it a pear.

Well, with any bad luck, we will all have apples in our hands, and will be selling them.

23 posted on 09/03/2002 10:59:38 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
LOL, no we won't. The health nuts will sue you for alar poisoning and put your stand out of business, LOL. Besides with all the regulatory impediments, you wouldn't get the stand up for a year!
24 posted on 09/03/2002 11:02:36 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Nuke'm Glowing; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; Mo1
Quite correct. But I don't think that the Feds will allow "C" to tank. They will adopt the Japanese model and funnel free money to them to stay afloat. So that Citigroup never has to eat all of the bad loans nor disclose the shady dealings they have been involved with for over 20 years.

I agree. There are too many skeletons there--and the US market would plummet, as would the dollar.

This Japanese fellow knows what he's doing. By moving the cash balances (which probably don't really exist anymore) into Citibank, he's awarding himself a US taxpayer bailout. Citibank's books look better on paper, so it's a win/win shell game for everyone but the US taxpayer...

25 posted on 09/03/2002 11:05:49 PM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
LOL, no we won't.

That is OK. I'm in Florida, and I will sell oranges out of my backyard, to snowbirds.

26 posted on 09/03/2002 11:06:59 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
LOL, and you won't be able to get a loan to pay the impact fees to start the business.....
27 posted on 09/03/2002 11:11:44 PM PDT by Quick Shot
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To: MadIvan
because Koizumi had a "funky" hair style the voters thought

Japan has a parliamentary system and the Prime Minister is not elected. Koizumi was selected by the LDP members in the lower house after PM Obuchi died.

28 posted on 09/03/2002 11:18:06 PM PDT by altair
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To: MadIvan
This made the front page head lines in this morning's Japan Times.

The morning session closed down. I haven't seen any updates on what's happening in the afternoon session.

29 posted on 09/03/2002 11:23:16 PM PDT by altair
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To: MadIvan
Already, the government has said it will not guarantee deposits worth more than £75,000, but this ceiling will be lowered further next March.

Well Well Well. If I had more than $75,000 in the bank in Japan I would start buying gold bars with that extra money.
30 posted on 09/04/2002 12:13:51 AM PDT by Odyssey-x
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To: MadIvan
Fear not! War is coming to revamp the economy, and kill off a nasty thug. Put your investment money in military contractors.
31 posted on 09/04/2002 12:16:29 AM PDT by AndrewSmith
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To: Mulder
So much for the wonders of central planning.... 3 posted on 9/3/02 10:26 PM Pacific by Mulder

Notice how hard it has been to find Mr. Greenbucks Greenspan?

32 posted on 09/04/2002 12:17:06 AM PDT by AndrewSmith
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
If you have been reading the financial news, Citigroup (parent of CitiBank) has been tanking, may be involved in the financial scandals. Looks like the Japanese retain their bad judgement.

Citigroup is involved in all sorts of sleaziness and illegal activities, but the company is so big that it doesn't mean all that much to its overall health. They're currently making a profit of ~$16 billion per year. Even if every single one of the lawsuits and potential fines related to all their dirty Enron dealings and Grubman moneygrubbing were to go against them, it wouldn't be more than a black eye to the company. It'd wipe out a couple quarters' worth of profit, but it certainly won't happen all in one quarter if it does occur. They would have to be involved in some far more serious illegal activities, on a much more massive scale, before there would ever be a real risk of it bringing down the company.

33 posted on 09/04/2002 12:30:45 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Odyssey-x
they are buying gold big time, japanese housewives
34 posted on 09/04/2002 12:53:00 AM PDT by BlackJack
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To: altair
Japan has a parliamentary system and the Prime Minister is not elected. Koizumi was selected by the LDP members in the lower house after PM Obuchi died.

I thought the LDP chose Koizumi because they thought he was the most voter friendly, and certainly had the best ratings in the polls.

My memory on this is sketchy, but hasn't he gone to the country yet in an election?

Regards, Ivan

35 posted on 09/04/2002 1:26:38 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
My memory on this is sketchy, but hasn't he gone to the country yet in an election?

So is mine. They held a national election on the anniversary of PM Obuchi's birth, but as I recall, the LDP did not do as well as they expected, though they retained leadership. I forget whether this was before or after Koizumi.

I think he was chosen because the party needed to distance itself from Mori (who screwed up bigtime for a Japanese politician). His platform of serious reform certainly puts him at odds with the powers-that-be of the LDP.

There are currently plans being considered to elect the Prime Minister by direct election, but who knows when or if they will end up selecting one.

36 posted on 09/04/2002 1:50:27 AM PDT by altair
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To: altair
I checked it out - Upper House elections in Japan were in July of last year. The LDP led by Koizumi won 80 out of 121 seats.

Regards, Ivan

37 posted on 09/04/2002 1:54:24 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
O.K. and Koizumi was selected Prime Minister the previous April so there has been an election during his watch. It must have been a previous election where the LDP lost seats. The New Komeito party joined the ruling coalition for a reason.
38 posted on 09/04/2002 2:07:00 AM PDT by altair
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To: Timesink
It's easy to make a profit when you can pick up the phone and tell the Fedcorp to loan money to the countries which are defaulting on you so they can make payments to you. There's a lot of smoke and mirrors going on with Citigroup, and you and I know we'll never know the full story.
39 posted on 09/04/2002 5:38:56 AM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: MadIvan
As much as the party is a problem the bigger issue is the triangle formed by business, ministers and politicians. By having all three headquartred in Tokyo, there is an old boy network among these three that starts in "preschool" and has continued for decades. Too much incest among these factions!

The result is that as a group they strive to maintain the power structure as long as possible and do not want any reformative change.

40 posted on 09/04/2002 11:25:57 AM PDT by stilts
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