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To: gordgekko
The Framers were well aware of the propensity of unchecked kings to drag their nations into war and wished to avoid this in the new republic. The power to commit a nation to war, placing young men and women in harm's way, is too great to be entrusted to any one person.

Our first two wars under the Constitution were initiated by Presidents John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, two of the principle framers, without the benefit of a DOW. Presidents have been initating conflicts ever since, and no court has ruled their actions unconstitutional.

10 posted on 09/03/2002 10:57:54 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: Hugin
Our first two wars under the Constitution were initiated by Presidents John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, two of the principle framers, without the benefit of a DOW. Presidents have been initating conflicts ever since, and no court has ruled their actions unconstitutional.

The Quasi-war with France was initiated by an act of Congress, authorizing American ships to sieze or sink French ships, and Tripoli declared war on the US in the before Jefferson did a thing. Plus Jefferson got Congressional authorization before he sent the Navy and Marines to North Africa.

As an irrelevent asside, neither Jefferson nor Adams were present at the Constitutional Convention, so to call them principal framers is inaccurate. With a little bit of a stretch you can grant Adams the tittle since some ideas from his writings were incorporated into the Constitution, but Jefferson had nothing whatsover to do with it.

24 posted on 09/03/2002 5:12:07 PM PDT by traditionalist
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