Border watchdog organization forming ‘Hawkeyes'

Imperial Valley Press Online ^ | 08/30/2002 | AARON CLAVERIE

[A Navy Vet]

Although I've been participated in immigration demonstrations before, I had since given up after watching the then ignored efforts of people like Spencer and Barbara Coe. I didn't know these two organizations had formed:

American Border Patrol
Ranch Rescue

These guys are actually out in the bush risking their lives. I'm joining both orgs poste haste.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

SELF HELP is the ONLY thing that will save our nation. The office holders are pursuing their highest virtues: eating, drinking, copulating, evacuating and snoring; all at taxpayer expense.

[Marine Inspector]

These guys are actually out in the bush risking their lives. I'm joining both orgs poste haste.

I support both groups, but due to my job, I can only send donations.

[FITZ]

Aren't there already ways we should be able to report some of this kind of thing? I would hate to see certain things happen in regards to this problem, I'd hate to see federal agents given the right to come onto my property and search for illegals who aren't there or have neighbors reporting on each other and giving the right then for innocent people to be investigated.

[FITZ]

SELF HELP is the ONLY thing that will save our nation.

Self help can get out of hand though. I hope something else is done first so people don't start going in on their own.

I think the government should do certain things the attract the worst illegals, welfare programs should be completely off limits to all immigrants including all legal immigrants as well as illegal. The pandering politicians know they're making things worse everytime they mention amnesty, I feel sorry for the agents out there who risk their lives when the politicians are working completely counter to what they're trying to do.

The agents out there need to be supported in their efforts much more by our government officials.

[RnMomof7]

SELF HELP is the ONLY thing that will save our nation. The office holders are pursuing their highest virtues: eating, drinking, copulating, evacuating and snoring; all at taxpayer expense.

It is worse than that they are selling American and getting fat on the transaction

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

Yep Self help got out of hand in April 1861. However, it looks like that is what will have to happen, either that or die or worse.

[FITZ]

Unfortunately it may come to that. I'd hate to see that though. For one amateurs on the border could end up shooting at people who are otherwise harmless people just coming out of desperation. I'd rather see other things ----like our government demanding that government make some overdo changes.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

I do not think there is any MAY about it. The question is when? There is a third world infiltration and these little gems hate us. We seem to be paralyzed by words uttered by outcasts.

[FITZ]

Also Americans will be shot at from the Mexico side just like they're doing to the border patrol agents. I'd hate to see it.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

It will happen. The FBI agents recently shot were dealing with a problem that I first read about circa 1995 e.g. Mexicans robbing American trains. There was an article in the late 90's about the systematic looting of California's San Joaquin valley. Trucks, cars, tractors, household goods stolen and taken down to Mexico. In essence the looting, pillage etc. is already starting.

[Letitring]

Wonderful idea. :)

[Letitring]

Oh bull. This would NOT be possible under a democrat president.

[Letitring]

Prove your numbers on the immigration issue, please.

[FITZ]

You're right it will happen if the government continues to ignore the problem and doesn't find real solutions. I feel sorry for agents getting shot at while the pandering politicians keep saying they're going to give amnesty --and they know saying amnesty just gets a thousand more running over the border to get in on it. I live on the border and I know what mess there is on the other side and no one here wants it over here. We've had quite a few people killed in carjackings because some Mexican wants their car. Almost everyone I know has had at least one car stolen and everyone knows the Mexican government officials and their kids are driving them.

[FITZ]

The only thing though is we also see some pretty innocent types coming over just to work --exactly because their country is such a mess and they just want to feed their kids or survive. Some just want to be maids or gardeners and get a few bucks to try to live, they don't mean to hurt anyone.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

One cannot rely on the office holders. Well I have to go good luck and God Bless.

[Letitring]

FYI:


Reduce immigration backlog while maintaining quality

Since 1993, the US has welcomed nearly 4.4 million new American citizens. Faced with this
unprecedented number of applications, the Administration undertook an initiative that has significantly
reduced the backlog of citizenship applications and is restoring timely processing while at the same time
maintaining the integrity of the process. The INS is on track to meet its goal of reducing this backlog by
completing 1.3 million applications this year while maintaining the highest levels of quality.
Source: WhiteHouse.gov web site Jul 2, 2000 Immigration

[sarasmom]

Oh is that true?They all just want a better life?

How are they getting those jobs?Are they being paid legal wages? What kind of selfish,greedy,racist, law-breaking POS US citizen/employer hires them? Are these employers just "helping" someone out, for kindness sake?I seriously doubt that, and no thoughtfull person would agree that encouraging criminality helps this society. Think about that aspect for a few minutes.

The creation and maintenance of an underground class of third-rate citizenry in the USA is fertile ground for increasing crime and poverty rates.Why not just legalise slavery? It is the same system anyway.Preying on the misery of another human being to benefit yourself.

Get the illegals out and toss their "employers" in jail.These laws exist.Enforce them.

[FITZ]

It's become complicated though ---some employers like farmers who might have wanted to pay someone minimum wage and offer insurance benefits wouldn't possibly be able to compete with law breakers who avoid the minimum wage and pay no benefits ---they they too have to break the law if they want to compete. They aren't all wicked, it's just the way things have become.

There should be many changes, cleaning out the SS number databases, fining employers of illegals, ending all welfare benefits and free health care etc besides just shooting people trying to make their way over. Most important would be demanding the Mexican government reform itself ASAP.