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To: Peach
What, the Germans think we don't remember a time when they didn't revere life? Please.

I recommend that everyone takes the time, trouble and expense to visit Auschwitz at some point. It is just outside the lovely city of Krakow, which is a good place to wash away the pain of what you see.

It is horrifying - the whole "Arbeit Macht Frei" on the gates, the piles of luggage, glasses, human hair - take a tour through the camp, see the ovens where the bodies were roasted - and if you look among the tall grass - the flecks of human bone are still there on the ground.

The Germans are in no position to lecture anyone. They should be grateful we didn't destroy them completely. We had every moral right to do so.

Regards, Ivan

23 posted on 08/31/2002 2:08:39 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
They should be grateful we didn't destroy them completely. We had every moral right to do so.

More than a moral right, it was an obligation. I'm half German and suspect in another 20 years by the time the Germans get through re-writing history, we will have attacked them unprovoked.

25 posted on 08/31/2002 2:14:48 PM PDT by Peach
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To: MadIvan
Ty Bomba, a wargame designer and historian, described the motivation of the average Red Army soldier something like this:

"In the end, it came down to revenge. Revenge for wives, children, siblings, parents, friends, and complete strangers; revenge for murders and rapes; revenge for villages destroyed and fields salted; and, eventually, revenge just for the sheer joy of it. The Germans call 1945 'The Beating Down.' The best argument for Russians being basically kind-hearted and decent as a culture is that they didn't kill every single German in the Soviet Occupation Zone after the war."

27 posted on 08/31/2002 2:17:26 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: MadIvan
Amen to that...never been to Auschwitz, but did tour the site of Dachau...I'll never forget that. Ever.

The overpowerful sense of evil could be felt in every step, with every room full of exhibits...

55 posted on 08/31/2002 3:05:07 PM PDT by NorCoGOP
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To: MadIvan
But wait! After the war it became clear that the communists were going to try to take over all of Europe! It was only then, faced with Stalin, that the "West" went the way of placation.
102 posted on 08/31/2002 7:47:16 PM PDT by Bogie
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To: MadIvan
I visited Daccau a few months ago...that was enough for me.
122 posted on 09/01/2002 12:33:44 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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