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To: sweetliberty
You're personalizing it... You can talk all you want about those who are employed in law enforcement and their IQS and present what they do as a negative by presenting them as bungling idiots who sit outside donut shops during their shifts all you want... That's doesn't make it true...

BTW, other law enforcement agencies attend the San Diego Co. SWAT trainings because they are considered one of the best in the southwest...

You may disagree with what LE did in this case and you may disagree with what LE did in San Diego while I was employed there but it doesn't negate that in both cases they arrested and earned convictions thus protecting the public at large...
154 posted on 08/31/2002 1:38:59 PM PDT by marajade
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To: marajade
While it is true that you can't judge any group just by stereotupes, it is also true that in some cases the stereotype is not so far off. I have seen it both ways.
155 posted on 08/31/2002 1:44:57 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: marajade
You may disagree with what LE did in this case and you may disagree with what LE did in San Diego while I was employed there but it doesn't negate that in both cases they arrested and earned convictions thus protecting the public at large...

I don't call placing a civilian into a situation where an armed robber is expected to strike "protecting the public". I'd say that it is sheer luck that the perp didn't blow away the clerk and that they were able to apprehend him after the robbery, as they didn't find him until several hours afterwards. Two qualified detectives could have handled this, with one making the switch with the clerk and the other present outside the store in wait for the perp to leave. The arrest would have been handled by the detective outside the store with the "clerk" providing backup.

Now that is with only TWO officers, whereas it is apparent from your comments that they had a SWAT team waiting OUTSIDE the store. I find this sloppy, cowardly, and inept..

156 posted on 08/31/2002 1:46:42 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: marajade
Using the clerk as bait, without his knowledge AND consent, ought to be reason for dismissal of the officers. Not just the one in charge but all who knew of the situation.

This illustrates clearly that THOSE officers , and TOO many other law enforcement officers feel their lives more important than the CITIZENS who pay their salaries.

I would love to see the clerk win a multi-million judgement against the PD, the officers individually, and his employer.They conspired to put him in harm's way, and in so doing, are WORSE than the punk robber.Company management often bray about providing a safe workplace , and on such grounds DENY the right to bear arms for self-defense. SInce the company apparently both denied this clerk the ability to defend himself AND knowingly placed him in harm's way, I think there is excellent cause for a lawsuit.

171 posted on 08/31/2002 3:53:03 PM PDT by hoosierham
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