The Unholy Alliance of Marxism and Islamism

FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | August 30, 2002 | Bruce S. Thornton

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[Noumenon]

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[Ukiapah Heep]

This is why liberals, like Muslims, need to be incarcerated at Gitmo.

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It's certainly true that in the Arab countries, former Leninist Communists have gravitated to Islamism, as have former Arab Nationalists. It's also true that the Western left has a soft spot for some of the attitudes of Islamism. But was Marx himself anti-Western? Didn't he see Western imperialism as preparing the way for the eventual revolution? Today's Islamists pick up where the previous generation of Communists and terrorists left off, but Marx himself looked at things very differently and probably wouldn't have thought much of them.

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As far as I can tell, the Islamic radicals are not Marxist or Communist influenced to any significant extent. The primary roots of Al Qaeda are in Wahhabism, the extreme religous fundamentalism of the southern part of the Arabian penninsula, and in Deobandism, a religious reaction against British colonialism and Hindu domination in India.

Muslims who are influenced by communist and socialist thought, such as the Ba'ath party of Syria and Iraq, tend to be secular, westernizning regimes. In fact, the Ba'ath Party was founded by a Muslim and a Catholic in Syria as a secular socialist modern alternative to the nationalist religous medieval conditions that had existed under the Ottoman empire.

[Noumenon]

Liberalism has to become as socially acceptable as a bad case of herpes. Liberals' dedication to the destruction of a free society renders them unfit to live in that same society.

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Great post.

[wita]

A breath of fresh air, from the backwoods prophet, but I can hear the retort, "I have my rights", "there's a first amendment you know", "you are just hateful", "It's a free country", and so on... sorry mr and mrs liberal, you just think it's a free country you have failed to understand, and reason, why America might be called a free country. You stand here and suck up freedom bought and paid for by the blood of a numberless concourse of truly freedom loving patriots who gave there all so you and your hogwash spouting liberal friends can tear down that which was bought at such a high price...I don't thinks so and neither should you. Perhaps if life was really difficult during your stay in the reeducation camp, you might gain wisdom and understanding? Nah, probably not.

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All true, but al-Qaeda and Osama have their origins as organs of American anti-communisim in Afghanistan. Saudi Arabia is the West's bastard child too.

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Maoist International Movement... check out the "special section opposing the US war in Afghanistan."

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"...your hogwash spouting liberal friends..."

This was an excellent article. My son was in college 4 years ago and his professor told him that Marxism had never been done "right" and therefore any reference to failed regimes is invalid. I don’t think any university goes into teaching why the Soviet Union, East Germany failed. Kids need to know the evil that lurks behind the ideology.

In regard to America I used to say that my father pulled the wagon up the hill and now you just want to ride in it. My liberal friends see it as an "evil white man" who ran over thousands of indigenous peoples and black slaves while riding in comfort and he really never pulled the wagon himself. These liberals are so filled with self hate that they cannot see that we are so lucky to have life and liberty.

[dennisw]

If you want on or off me Israel/MidEast/Islamic Jihad ping list please let me know.  Via Freepmail is best way.............

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The enemy is among us- seen this?

Sheikh Gilani's American Disciples

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The violent history of America before the arrival of Europeans can be read in the skeletal remains of victims of massacre, scalping, dismemberment, and even cannibalism. In other words, Indians were like every other people on the planet: willing to use violence in the grim competition for resources.

Many times American Indians did not go to war over scarce resources. Often it was for greater glory, for rape, for acquiring another wife to make more babies for your tribe so your tribe increases and becomes more powerful. For kidnapping the children of the other tribe to raise in your own tribe as your own so your tribe gets larger, more powerful. 

War for the sake of war and for the sport of it. War for bloodlust
Some tribes were more warrior oriented than others.
Many Islamics have this same warrior outlook on life.

[dennisw]

The American Blacks who want radical Islam go for this so called Shiekh. He's their guru and snuff video supplier.
This rotten Sheikh has carved out a niche for himself in with the homeboys.

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Liberalism has to become as socially acceptable as a bad case of herpes. Liberals' dedication to the destruction of a free society renders them unfit to live in that same society.

I agree with that. And this, to my mind, presents a Constitutional crisis not unlike that one the 1950s.

How do we guarantee the rights protected by the Constitution, all the while defending those rights against those who use these same rights to destroy it?

That's the question.

[Tailgunner Joe]

bttt

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My son was in college 4 years ago and his professor told him that Marxism had never been done "right" and therefore any reference to failed regimes is invalid.

Too bad your son didn't take the opportunity at the time to ask the "professor" if the ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY MILLION people slaughtered in the name of communism and socialism in the 20th century, were just plain wrong about Marxism and its variants.