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Hi! I grew up conservative. I've never voted Democrat, but for a short period in college I did try to act like a liberal. And I've given this a lot of thought, and based on my own experiences with liberals (especially since 9-11) I've come down to pretty much the exact same conclusions! My oldest brother is a Bay Area liberal, and I swear that even at age 45 he has the emotional maturity of an adolescent. He's still trying to find himself. He spends hundreds of dollars a year taking classes at Esalen. And he still thinks our parents owe him the world, simply because they chose to give birth to him.

Also, after 9-11 I did have a few lengthy debates with progressives. And I had one really interesting conversation with a Canadian who believed that religion was the cause of all evil and wars in the world and he really believed that George Bush was evil. After several fruitless exchanges, I asked him what his basic beliefs about the world were. His reply: "It all comes down to good intentions."

What's the quote? The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Anyhow, I can't say this for all Liberals, but from what I can tell I'm willing to bet that the majority of "progressives" believe that humanity is evolving toward a higher spiritual consciousness, and that through sheer will and good intentions mankind ---excuse me, "humanity"-- can acheive world peace, equality, goodness, and end hunger and suffering, etc. Basically, they ignore what thousands of years of history tells us about human nature. And personally, I don't see much difference between Progressives and any other religious cult. It takes a huge leap of faith to believe that humanity can will itself to become something that so many thousand years of history has proven it is not.

the majority of "progressives" believe that humanity is evolving toward a higher spiritual consciousness, and that through sheer will and good intentions mankind ---excuse me, "humanity"-- can acheive world peace, equality, goodness, and end hunger and suffering, etc.

Yep. Liberals believe that man's inclination toward evil can be eliminated, while conservatives believe that man has a fallen human nature that isn't going away.

Liberals are trying to create utopia (no matter how many people they have to kill to achieve it), while conservative recognize that it cannot happen. Call it reality-based.