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To: reborn22
I am totally impressed by the extent of your research into homosexuality and pedophilia. This subject is of special interest to me and I wonder whether you can direct me to a website with links to more material such as you quote?

http://www.frc.org/get/is01b1.cfm

http://www.cprmd.org/Myths/MYTHS_PAGE.htm

Do you have an academic background in the subject, or does your professional life involve working with pedophiles or victims of pedophiles? You have obviously devoted much of your life to research into homosexuality and pedophilia, so this is for sure a sphere that concerns you closely. I'd be interested to learn about your own practical experience of these issues as well as the research you've quoted.

I am a paralegal and I've spent many years working for criminal defense attorneys. Fourteen years ago, when the ink was still wet on my diploma, I was hired to work on a criminal appeal for an innocent man who had been wrongfully convicted of sodomizing his own three-year-old son with a screwdriver.

The state's own star witness -- a medical examiner who had testified as an expert witness in over 300 murder trials -- testified that it was medically impossible for the crime to have been committed. This man spent 18 months in prison as a convicted child molester before we could get him out.

This was a landmark case and it is being used in law schools to instruct future attorneys on the meaning of the magic words, "reasonable doubt." Of course, we became well-known as the local experts on sex offenses against children and our reputation was that if we couldn't get an acquittal nobody could.

The inevitable result was that every other criminal defense attorney in town started referring clients to us if they had been accused of sex offenses against children. Our waiting room seemed to fill up with real, live, genuine child molesters. I was almost always present during the initial interviews with these clients, and the frequent answers to our questions were, "Yes, I did it, but you've got to get me out of trouble," and "Yes, I'm gay."

All too often, the only thing we could do for these guys was to make certain that their constitutional rights were protected on the way to prison. Because that's where they were inevitably going. But I was frequently called upon to research the possibility of using a diminished capacity defense, usually called the "insanity defense."

I always thought that the reason Kinsey overestimated the percentage of American homosexuals was because he was homosexual himself and he was trying to show homosexuality to be normal.

You're probably right. Kinsey's original training was as a zoologist. He spent the first half of his professional career in the tedious cataloguing of thousands of specimens of bees and other insects. When a research grant became available for sex research, he applied for it; and since no licensed mental health professional at Indiana University in the 1940s wanted to touch the subject, he was awarded the grant.

I would also like to know what advice you would give to Christians who want to help give homosexuals the strength to reject their desires and obey God's will. Do you think Christians should be compassionate towards homosexuals?

Of course, Christians should be compassionate toward homosexuals, and toward all other men and women who are struggling against sin. We are all either slaves to God, or slaves to sin. Homosexuals who are sexually active are in the grip of a type of sin that is extremely powerful and controlling, as madg has indicated. This is a very difficult cross for them to bear. The world teaches them that their impulses are completely normal and natural, and that it is incumbent upon the rest of us to accept them.

Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 teach us that homosexual conduct is a sin. Acts 15:29-30 releases Christians from almost all of the old Laws of Moses in Leviticus, but one of the four areas of those old laws that is still binding upon Christians is the laws against "sexual immorality."

I Corinthians 6:9-10, Romans 1:26-27 and I Timothy 1:9-11 confirm that the prohibition against homosexual conduct applies to Christians. The entire passage of Romans 1:18-32 is, in my opinion, addressed directly to the liberalization of Christian doctrine.

There are many cases of homosexuals who have left that lifestyle behind, married members of the opposite sex and now lead happy and satisfied lives free from sin. Even the homosexual proselytizers such as madg will eagerly point out that some heterosexuals have changed their sexual orientation and become homosexuals -- their rallying cry, if I may be so crude, is "Ditch the bitch and make the switch!" If they can "switch" to homosexuality, why can't homosexuals "switch" to heterosexuality?

But if that is impossible, then the only choice for a homosexual who seeks salvation is celibacy. There are many thousands of men and women who have found complete and fulfilled lives through celibacy. They are called priests and nuns.

Also, militant feminists claim that a woman can lead a complete and fulfilled life without a man: their rallying cry is, "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle." If a woman can have a complete and fulfilled life without a man, why can't a homosexual do the same?

128 posted on 09/01/2002 11:20:12 AM PDT by Bryan
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To: Bryan
I was hired to work on a criminal appeal for an innocent man who had been wrongfully convicted
of sodomizing his own three-year-old son with a screwdriver.


I'll never forget seeing an interview of a journalist (from Detroit) who recounted how
his estranged wife accussed him of sexually abusing their child.
The judge in the case eventually tossed all the allegations and reached the
conclusion the wife's accuassations were groundless...but gave her custody
(or the king's share of it, IIRC).

This was on CNN maybe 15 years ago and I remember having shudders.
Little did I suspect this was just the leading edge of the tidal wave of sex-abuse
accuasations being used in divorce cases for leverage...
129 posted on 09/01/2002 12:53:48 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Bryan
Thank you for the links to two good conservative websites dedicated to preserving family values. However, I was slightly disappointed because they seemed to contain more statements of opinion than the sort of statistical analysis you have posted here. I guess I'll have to rely on your data, or find the time to do my own research! Thanks anyway.

Your job must be awfully hard to do, trying to decide which of these men are innocent. It does sound to me as though most of them are mentally unstable, and not just ordinary homosexuals living out their lifestyle. But surely you have had contact with pedophiles who regard themselves as "normal" "gay" men who just like doing it with young kids?

I am of course familiar with the Bible's teachings on homosexuality and there is no question that the Lord forbids homosexual activity. When I asked you to suggest ways of helping and guiding these people, when they are struggling against the temptation to sin, I did not mean guidance on God's will, which is perfectly clear on the matter.

What I would like to know, of you and other contributors here, is what kind of counseling is appropriate for Christians who are struggling against desire for persons of the same sex. It is not sufficient to read to them the probibitions written in the Bible.

I am not convinced that all homosexuals are able to "ditch" their sexual proclivities and marry a person of the opposite sex, and be as happy as the next man. I am thinking of all those who suffer alone, remain celibate, and are never sexually fulfilled.
135 posted on 09/01/2002 3:45:54 PM PDT by reborn22
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To: Bryan
"A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle."

Interestingly, the woman who uttered that grito of the feminist left got married herself last fall. Yup, Gloria Steinem got hitched. It wasn't reported in the mainstream press whether she took the precaution of having his testicles surgically removed first.

145 posted on 09/01/2002 11:08:28 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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